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      I mean, technically, they aren’t concentration camps because as far as I understand those are just places to dump the caught and deported unwanted people. They aren’t being kept there forcefully, no?

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        I have no idea if your comment is sarcastic or not, but those aren’t only concentration camps, they are outsourced concentration camps:

        Return hubs are a euphemism for deportation centers that would be set up in non-EU countries.

        The EU plans to deport rejected asylum seekers to these “return hubs” until they can be deported back to their countries of origin.

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          It was meant as a sincere question with a cynical undertone. Dumping “unwanteds” is obviously horrible, but I understood part of the definition of concentration camp to be a place where people of disrepute with the authoritarians in power are interred for various hideous purposes. Not a place where people are deported to, and are then free to leave (except in the direction they were just brought from).

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            definition of concentration camp to be a place where people of disrepute with the authoritarians in power are interred for various hideous purposes.

            I mean that checks out. EU countries barely if even have any kind of democratic mandate, a lot of real power in EU is held by bureocrats with little or zero accountability to peoples of Europe, and i would say that kicking out the refugees asking for asylum back to countries which are devastated/exploited in large part by Europeans, and where they would most likely face at least crushing poverty and at worst oppresion by regimes (Syria is pretty huge case) is pretty fucking hideous.

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    Jesus it’s just widespread bullshit. The only people who deserve to be treated like this are neo-conservs and neo-libs.

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    “Today only around 20% of those who have a return decision leave Europe. This number is by far too low,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said.

    Pretty worrying.

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    People need to keep in mind these are rejected asylum seekers. Their application has been processed and denied. These are not all legitimate refugees, and especially not those with an ongoing asylum application. Normally these rejected asylum seekers would be put in jail pending their deportation but due to the fact that

    • we have more of them than we have free space in our jails,
    • many don’t have valid papers for whatever reason and
    • often come from countries that try to extort the deporting countries for taking back their own citizens

    the temporary detention term (“Abschiebehaft” and “Vorbereitungshaft” in DACH countries) has simply often not been applied. Many of these rejected asylum seekers then end up absconding. It may sound harsh but Denmark has been doing these deportation hubs for many years already and they’re highly effective.