Virginia Giuffre, who accused Britain's Prince Andrew in Epstein sex trafficking scandal, has died
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The woman who accused Britain’s Prince Andrew and other influential men of sexually exploiting her as a teenager trafficked by financier Jeffrey Epstein has died. Virginia Giuffre was 41.

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    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
      12·
      8 hours ago

      Probably yes and this is how all these bullshit conspiracies start on the right in particular. Don’t be part of the problem.

      Until we see evidence of foul play we have no reason to believe there was foul play.

      Plus if you want to start speculating, here’s something to consider: how much more damage could she possibly do? She already did it. It’s out there. This simply draws more attention back to something that people haven’t talked about for years in national media. He already weathered the crisis.

      What we should really be talking about is what likely caused her to take her life, because that’s the kind of stuff that has a chilling effect on people speaking out against powerful people.

      • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
        3·
        8 hours ago

        …

        Are you kidding?

        Virginia Giuffre’s WHOLE LIFE had been nothing but foul play!

        If you look up Foul Play in the dictionary her picture as a kid should come up.

        Benefit of the doubt exists until violated, we are infinitely past that barrier, that’s like suggesting “I wonder if 9/11 wasn’t an accident” after OBL took credit for it.

          • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
            4·
            7 hours ago

            My issue is your position denies the overwhelming presence and patterns of malfeasance shown thus far in this case.

            If I found a dead body in the cell of a convicted serial killer, it would not be an unreasonable supposition to draw that the serial killer was involved.

            • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              6 hours ago

              Did you watch the video?

              Also last I checked he was not convicted of a crime. I think he’s probably guilty, but this “overwhelming evidence“ and “pattern” portrait you’re painting is pretty cracked. In fact the video does a very good job of talking about your “patterns.”

              Again, you should watch it. I’m being very insistent for a reason

                • Chris Remington@beehaw.orgM
                  2·
                  4 hours ago

                  Telling people that they have problems is NOT nice. It’s the only rule here at Beehaw in which you have broken. Take a 7 day vacation.

                • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
                  2·
                  6 hours ago

                  Ok surely you know I meant Andrew and not Epstein. This is flagrant misrepresentation and you know it. There isn’t a person in the world who doesn’t know what happened to Epstein and I find your attempt to make me sound completely out of the loop like that insulting to the point that it makes me not want to continue having this conversation. You know what you’re doing. Don’t pull bullshit moves to cover your lack of a coherent argument.

                  If you watched it then you should understand that just because you can draw lines between things doesn’t mean the lines are correct. Human beings are very creative people. We’re very good at coming up with explanations. The veracity of those explanations however is very inconsistent