Princess Elisabeth has completed first year of master’s degree but Trump administration’s crackdown may jeopardise studies

Princess Elisabeth, the 23-year-old future queen of Belgium, has just completed her first year at Harvard University but the ban imposed by Donald Trump’s administration on foreign students studying there could jeopardise her continued attendance.

The US president’s administration revoked Harvard’s ability to enrol international students on Thursday, and is forcing current foreign students to transfer to other schools or lose their legal status in the US, while also threatening to expand the crackdown to other colleges.

“Princess Elisabeth has just completed her first year. The impact of [the Trump administration’s] decision will only become clearer in the coming days/weeks. We are currently investigating the situation,” said a spokesperson for the Belgian royal palace, Lore Vandoorne.

  • KayLeadfoot@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    187
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’m sure this will work wonders for American soft power on the world stage.

    Having a literal fucking queen with fond memories of America from her youth is political influence that money cannot buy. What an idiotic fumble.

  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Someone told me this whole attack on Harvard is all because Harvard rejected Baron trump and while I haven’t looked into it that would make so much sense

  • Zenith@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    Why does he have the power to ban people from going to a private university?

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    what a toxic piece of shit, he is like the most obnoxious type of kid who screams, flails arms and legs when he loses a game and gets confronted about his shitty behaviour. except he is also the president of the US

    • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      And this is who the majority of the voters and those who didn’t turn up wanted as their president. Democracy at work, ladies and germs!

  • etuomaala@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    It does raise the question of why her royal highness could not deign to attend a Belgian university in the first place lol

    • golli@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      Considering her future job as queen will involve a lot of diplomatic and ceremonial functions it does kind of make sense to me that you’d want her to gain some international experience.

      Also on a personal level i’d imagine it is much easier to have some resemblance of a private life in a foreign country, especially at a prestigious institution where plenty of others share notable backgrounds, compared to going to a local university where everyone knows who you are. In a small country like Belgium you probably don’t even have much choices as to which university even offers a good program in your chosen field.

      Edit:

      Elisabeth initially studied at St John Berchmans College in Marollen, Brussels from September 2004 until August 2018. This marked a significant change in Belgian royal tradition, being the first time that a future Belgian monarch’s education has begun in Dutch

      In May 2020, the Belgian Royal Court announced that Elisabeth would undertake military training. On 31 August 2020, Elisabeth entered the Royal Military Academy in Brussels, studying social and military sciences

      - wikipedia

      Really seems like the worst candidate to make this accuse against

      • Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        Elisabeth initially studied at St John Berchmans College in Marollen, Brussels from September 2004 until August 2018.

        Something is off here. Ok, apparently the St John Berchmans College is a secondary school, but still I guess it should say 2014. Surely she didn’t start school when three yeard old.

        (Not opposing your original point, this just caught my eye.)

        • golli@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          I’d imagine that “school” in that context is used more broadly and encompases stuff like kindergarten.

          A look at their website shows that they seem to also have a preschool and elementary school. It even currently says that you can enroll your kids born 2023 now “even if they don’t start in 2026”, which implies that starting 3 seems to indeed be a reasonable time to join their preschool program.

    • Breezy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Because going to another country where she’ll learn to deal with another cultures is important and will be a huge part of her future. You raise a question when the answer should be easily understood.

  • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    1 month ago

    Honestly. If a couple bourgeoisie take some strays for Trump’s awful policies I’m not gonna shed a tear. Who the fuck cares about a Belgium queen? I care about the working class kid that isn’t gonna graduate. Fuck the Queen.

    • aidan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      I care about the working class kid that isn’t gonna graduate.

      There’s a near zero amount of working class kids studying abroad at Harvard

      • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Do you think this policy is only going to be unique to Harvard? Your comment is ironic because it’s upvoted by the same people disagreeing with me that don’t care about a royal. But can’t see the the the bigger picture of who this hurts.

        The entire criticism I have is that it shouldn’t take a royal for people to care and it’s absolutely silly to write an article around it. It makes the absolutely wrong point about who is harmed by this. It’s literally pro Trump. Use to trick his base into thinking the “elite” are the ones that will be hurt. They won’t. They will at most be inconvenienced.

        But you somehow miss BOTH points. Somehow not getting my point of criticism of the article AND missing the larger picture of who these xenophobic policies will hurt the most.

        It’s starts here. At the easiest place for American working class to say “yep, fuck the Queen”. And solidifies xenophobic policies into law. All while idiot liberals clutch their pearls as “the poor queen”.

        • aidan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          You understand this policy as of now is only targeting Harvard. The article is about Harvard, don’t pre-cope imo

          • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            Yeah. Famously no other universities have been targeted. We definitely don’t have a green card holding student rotting in a cell for months at this point. With not a single charge of a crime against him.

            Yeah. I’m sure this rich queen is the only victim. And Harvard has definitely been the only school targeted /s

    • drawb@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      I understand. But Trump seems to like being invited by royalty (at least UK royalty). Also visited her father when in Belgium during his 1st term. Probably not, but if he isn’t welcome because of this (among other things) next time, Trump could do something you do care about. He acts much more bourgeoisie than this princess (not yet queen) seems to act.

  • skozzii@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’m just glad we are keeping these thugs and criminals out of Harvard, it was clearly a huge problem.

    • chingadera@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      1 month ago

      The king of America poses a minor threat to the princess of Belgium.

      Does any of this make me get paid what im worth and left the fuck alone?

      Tune in at 6pm PST for “Why do I give a shit?”

      • chingadera@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 month ago

        Sure has a lot of downvotes, I’m sorry but is there a nuanced view I can hear about that makes me forget that the only war is a class war and both of these motherfuckers are against me and anyone else that is reading this?

        • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          There’s a lot of libs that run off of identity politics here and are completely delusional in thinking that this somehow will connect with Trump voters since she’s white.

          What lack of material analysis does to a mother fucker.

  • Genius@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    arrow-down
    21
    ·
    1 month ago

    Why do we care about whether a princess can study in another country? Fuck princesses, they’re nepo baby billionaires plus a “divine right” to oppress people.

    • Eximius@lemmy.world
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      Hey, don’t put any random rich-ish person from Europe into the same US billionaire basket

        • nyctre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          You’re either overestimating the Belgium crown’s power or underestimating the power of money. Also: “Belgium’s monarchy has topped the list as Europe’s poorest royal family, with the Belgian monarch King Philippe estimated to have a fortune of about €12.4 million”

            • nyctre@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 month ago

              Never said she was poor, just not “more power than money can buy”.

              Also, you’re paying more in taxes than many people’s yearly gross income so maybe you’re not so poor yourself so… Yeah…

                • nyctre@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  What do you mean not really? Minimum wage in most countries is below 25k/year. If you’re playing 40k in taxes, it means you’re earning a lot more than that. Median is somewhere around 40-50k, so you’re earning more than that as well. You have no idea how privileged you are if you think you have it bad.

                • aidan@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  You’re definitely earning more than me, but I’m also a freelancer. So much of at least Czech and Polish tax code is set up to make it far more expensive to run a small business or be self employed, than to work for a company

  • KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    Either not white enough for trump or hasn’t payed the orange shitnozzle enough homage.

    Coin toss but odds are on not enough $$

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    1 month ago

    On the one hand I wish anything bad that’s possible on anyone who’s royalty. On the other hand this might shine a light on Trumps bullshit in a way that even his supporters might start questioning.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 month ago

      even his supporters might start questioning

      Lol nope. Have you ever met a trump supporter who didn’t have resentment towards higher education? I sure haven’t.

      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Luckily I live far away from them, so I haven’t met any. But yeah maybe I’m still too optimistic because of it.

        • aidan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          You definitely have. Whenever people meet me they feel the need to tell me which American politicians they support for some reason. And a non-zero percent of them in essentially every country like Trump. And of Chinese people I’ve met it’s 100% for some reason lol

    • Grimtuck@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Why would your heart be so dark as to wiah bad on someone just because of who their parents are? That’s not okay.

      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        She’s an adult, she has the choice. She can step away like Prince Harry for example. As long as she remains crown princess, she’s perpetuating royalty.

  • wpb@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 month ago

    I guess something good came out of a really really shitty thing then.

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    18
    ·
    1 month ago

    A relative of King Leopold II, the number 4 ranked mass murderer. Look up Belgian Congo and that monarchy should have been torn down.

    However, Krasnov’s revoking international students that apply to Harvard is plain stupid and very fascist/communist move.

    • lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      fascist/communist

      Come on. Aren’t we better than this? Your other points are correct but get out of here with this horseshoe bullshit

      • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        My grandmother was jailed by the Nazis and survived WW II. Post WW II, my relatives were on both sides, East Germany and West Germany. Tell me again how I know the similarities between the fascist and communist when it boils down to power and corruption. It’s not horseshoe BS.

        • lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          Absolutely none of that has anything to do with the dictionary definition of communism. You can use “totalitarianism” if you can fit that into your vocabulary

                • lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  I don’t know how to pound this into your thick skull. You’re obviously very dull. The people who abused your family had a system of government they called “communism”. IT WAS NOT COMMUNISM. YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED COMMUNISM. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT COMMUNISM IS.

  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    20
    ·
    1 month ago

    Future queen I guess means she is a princess. Just say that. I did not know Belgium still has vestiges of monarchy. That does put a damper on the judgment from Europe over the U.S. having Trump. Also can’t forget Leopold. Fuck that guy

    • Null User Object@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Future queen I guess means she is a princess. Just say that.

      “Future queen” is more specific than “princess.”

      They call her Princess Elisabeth repeatedly in the article, but she’s not just “a princess.”

      The princess is heir to the Belgian throne, as the eldest of four children born to King Philippe and Queen Mathilde.

      Her siblings are also a princess and two princes, but she’s the eldest, and thus the only one that can currently be called “future queen.”

    • x00z@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Belgium’s monarchy is mostly ceremonial. Most of the power lies with parliament.

      • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        I get that. I still think it’s ridiculous. Not that echewing monarchy has done so well in the u.s. either.

          • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 month ago

            Would that I could control what I worry about including the governments of faraway lands. Also did I mention monarchies are very silly? I will still laugh at them as I weep at the tragedies here a at home

            • x00z@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 month ago

              Your argument wasn’t that they are silly, useless or ridiculous. This was your argument:

              That does put a damper on the judgment from Europe over the U.S. having Trump

              You’re implying it is hypocrite. But it isn’t. European monarchies have close to no power over their parliaments. So your point is invalid because a monarchy would change almost nothing in how a European country is governed and how that ties with judgement towards Trump.

              • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                6
                ·
                1 month ago

                No, it wasn’t a direct comparison of government systems. I’m not here for the political theory. Perhaps I should have checked in with you personally before I shitposted about the silliness of monarchies.

                • x00z@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  Ah yes the good ol’ “i was trolling all along” argument

    • zewm@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      I guess you’re one of those doesn’t read the article types.

      • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        No I did, doesn’t change anything except exaggerate my dismay. Trump and the ivy leagues and the princesses can all just go away