Liberals: What are you offering?
Leftists: Wtf dude??!!
Ahhhh liberals, spreading the same sinophobia and anti-DPRK sentiment as the righties worded a bit different and with a pride flag 😄 🫠
don’t forget the red-scare propaganda, almost exactly as told by the far-right
I am going to scare some libs watch!
Even among leftists, the AES countries are a sore subject. Most leftcoms, libcoms, trots, hoxhaists, and maoists are critical of places like the DPRK (if they don’t just outright reject them in their entirety.)
Libs: Waaa how could you support NK! It’s run by a dictator who keeps his people in ruin and absolutely kills millions!!! MSNBC told me so!
If liberals would stop rolling over and trying to get along with bullies then we’d never be HERE at this shitty ass point in time.
Meanwhile right wingers were the only ones that tried to shoot Trump while “actual leftists” created memes about how tough "actual leftists"are.
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Isn’t that “right wingers” still even if it’s his own corrupt pals?
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Why would leftists want to shoot Trump? He’s worsening the conditions under capitalism which is a win for us.
Had Crooks succeeded at the time, there may have been a martyr situation. Might have ended up worse.
Trump is a cult that dies with him. That’s like saying no one should have killed Hitler.
Best thing Hitler ever did tbh
Pure Great Man Theory nonsense
It’s not nonsense. It’s human nature. People are, in general, not different than their tribal ancestors from 300,000 years ago.
The forces that create the environment for a Hitler to come to power are different than the personality cult that develops after the person is in power.
It’s human nature
When ever you see this, is guaranteed that whatever follows is baseless pseudoscience.
Ah yes, evolution. The well known pseudoscience.
Oh yeah, by all means, cite the peer reviewed biology papers showing that Great Man Theory is Evolutionary Biology, because, yes, “it’s evolutionary biology!” Is the number one catch phrase of people spouting baseless pseudo science.
Weren’t the allies putting off Hitler assassinations due to fear of him being replaced by someone more competent?
Not that I ever heard of. Please provide a link.
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probably not tho
Yis, the movie that made GUN just incidentally involved instead of the whole problem. Also where tf was City Escape? Still love you, Sonic.
0/10 worst movie ever, no City Escape
I almost walked out and left my kids in the theatre. They didnt get it.
There IS a chase scene through a city. Though it’s more akin to Radical Highway, admittedly.
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the only thing we could take away from this insight of yours is that it’s okay for westoids to balkanize literally everywhere else that isn’t in the Global North.
Phoney “progressives” want to fight us, FTFY
actually i don’t really want to fight anyone. i think what we need is wisdom and ideas to lay out a plan forward; what we need is a thinktank to actually develop visions for the future. instead what we have is a lot of blaming-the-other-one. that’s barely productive. we need to have positive visions for the future again.
What if their “positive visions for the future” is genocide, lebensraum and white supremacy?
I don’t think that positive visions for the future make any money
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No one’s stopping you. Go get locked up.
Who said anything about physically fighting? Liberals roll over to the right in all manner, in the courts, legislatively, when they are in power…
Who said anything about physically fighting?
I did.
Oh, then by all means. Maybe show up to a Democratic primary once in a while and you’ll get your chance.
and get sabotaged by the party in favor of some old conservative fart like joe biden?
That’s a form of cognitive distortion, not a political strategy. Mamdani won against 10 other candidates because we showed up. We have literal evidence that’s all it takes. Quit with the victim mentally and take your country back.
i hope mamdani succeeds and all, but that’s literally what happened the last few us presidential elections. electoralism is historically incapable of defeating fascism.
if you are counting on it to fix the us, like all we need is hope and rainbows, i have some bad news for ya.
Typical all or nothing response. Let’s forget the 535 members of Congress have primaries every 2-4 years so we can complain that ‘it was either Fetterman or Dr. Oz’ when Fetterman beat three primary contenders, two of whom were progressive, in a primary that saw <9% turnout.
If you think abstaining is the solution, why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years?
and none of that system has solved the issue for us in the various decades it has existed.
you think abstaining is the solution
no i don’t, that’s not what any of us are arguing for.
why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years
because most people have insisted for that time that voting is the only solution worth pursuing. its not, that system works against us making it one of the least effective solutions.
Friend, what a pointless waste of time with the uniparty, they will do whatever is needed to manipulate away any real change
Im impressed by your willingness to argue with crayon eaters those past couple days
they are flooding this instance lately for some reason
Maybe something to do with the whole epstein thing going on?
Thanks i try 😁
Whenever I come across one of these lemmy.ml posts where this general topic of leftists shitting on western libs comes up, it always makes me curious.
I understand what y’all hate. I regularly hear what doesn’t work (voting). But I never hear a concise, specific, tactical thing that I as an individual could do.
Sometimes I’ll see very generic notes about how “nothing’s ever going to change until a unified, violent, upheaval happens”, but that’s about the closest I’ve ever seen.
So please. Indulge me. I’m a US lefty lib. What should I be doing if I want to help leftist causes (pro-labor / break up corporations / etc).
Because I swear to gods. According to folks here:
- voting? Doesn’t work
- donating? You’ll never outspend
- grass roots whatever? They’ll stomp you out
- acts of coordinated violence? We’d never say that explicitly
What then? I hate the current trajectory of my country and feel helpless to change anything with the tools I have at hand. Give me one practical thing I can do to help unfuck this mess.
(And to the FBI listening in. I’d never do anything illegal based on advice of Internet strangers. I just wanna hear them say, out loud, what I think they really want to say)
If you’re honestly expecting a three-party system to emerge from FPTP, you need to work on your mathematics.
Liberals : “Play my rigged game”
Communists : “no”
Liberals : 😭😭😭
I don’t care if you play. I’m merely saying how continuing to do nothing is pointless. Good luck complaining the government out of power.
All meaningful positive change in the US happened outside of the theatre piece of electoral politics. These include:
- Socialist armies like vietnam’s bringing the US to heel ended the US draft.
- Large numbers of people protesting internally, brought the end of the vietnam war, rights for workers like the 8 hour day, women’s rights, etc. The US has one of the bloodiest labor histories of any country, and unfortunately the US state did defeat it, but all of the gains for US workers come from this historical period of anti-capitalist organization.
US electoralism is a distracting theatre piece, where both sides act as capitalist puppets. All positive change comes in spite of that system, when ppl start organizing outside of it.
Honestly at this point even a two-party system would be better than current one.
Then show up and vote in the primaries🤷♂️
You know what causes more harm than Democrats? People not voting for them because they’re not far enough to the left, and therefore moving the entire country to the right.
What teaches the Dems to move to the right is that those on the right actually get votes.
Sure friend, just keep voting for the ratchet! Im sure the genocidal zionoists like AOC will have a change of heart any day now!
What teaches Democrats to move left is to mobilize for them and stifle any criticism as they move further to the right.
Correct. What caused the Democrats to move right over the last 40 years were the retirees who continuously voted for centrist conservatives in primaries. They’re the only ones who always show up, hence the <15% congressional primary attendance.
Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. That’s all it takes for us the move the Overton Window back to the left.
Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. and they are already moving to put the kibosh on him! PROGRESS!
All they can do to him is withhold funding. He won the primary with a grassroots campaign. The part you really don’t understand is that short of voter suppression or ballot tampering, we control the election.
Do you eat fast food everyday because of advertising or do you choose to be self-informed and eat healthy? Do you blame Big Lettuce for not advertising salads enough?
Because the corporate Dems are scared when people actually show up to vote in the primary. That’s why we need to keep doing it to replace the Democratic leadership.
Why are you trying so hard to keep people from doing that? Are you an idiot, or are you a troll and actually want things to stay as they are?
