and fuck the UK goverment

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    It is fucking mental that an industry plagued by data harvesting is being asked to harvest more data.

    Anyway, I’m now in Belgium according to my VPN.

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    Age verification is insane in it’s entirety and no payment processor, corpo, government, or think-tank has any right to enforce their puritanical views on sex and Orwellian techno-fascist policies on everyone.

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    I worked for an early AI project for [large tech giant]. While there, Alexis Ohanian came into the office and talked to my boss about using reddit’s content (your posts and probably private correspondence, too, we got it from every other social network) as corpora for the AI/bot, it wasn’t quite “training data” yet, it was early still in the game, but most likely it has become such.

    So yeah, add that to reasons to hate reddit. I have never understood the appeal of what is essentially a for-profit USENET/BBS system, except that you can decorate yourself with flare or whatever it’s called. Why’d people start using it? Why do we give away our collectively-owned technology to these dipshits?

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    What I don’t understand is that there are ways to prevent kids from looking at porn that don’t rely on crazy shit like this, even if they do involve some government action. Having to send a picture of your face to a porn provider to view porn is the dumbest possible way to fix this. I suspect the real reason for all of this is people want to effectively ban porn altogether and dumb fucks are letting them.

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      It’s going to be interesting to see if, after Britons become accustomed to letting websites take pictures of their identity documents, whether there will be interesting fraud attempts made on the British public from other websites who claim that they are conforming to British law.

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    Yeah I already left Reddit because (one of the reasons) they wouldnt let you open NSFW content without downloading their app on mobile. Having to submit ID is just way too ridiculous.

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      I was forced out of reddit, as are many through their schemes of removing accounts that doesn’t adhere to propaganda standards

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        They permabanned me claiming that I had posted the Alligator Auschwitz video and called it Bullying ( violating rule 1). Their evidence when I appealed? A screenshot of the video with “deleted” as the poster. Thing is, the only subs I ever posted to were niche hobby subs. I would comment in politics subs and news subs, but not post. I can’t even lie, it hurts to lose access to some of those subs since Lemmy simply doesn’t fill the void yet.

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          reddit has bots running the site mostly, i wouldnt be surprised its used in some form to report anti-faciscst sentiment. the only protected spaces are the subs, that the user has been on for a while.

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            I voiced anti-fascist sentiment all over the place, but I never posted the thing they banned me for. I had been behaving myself, so the ban was quite a surprise.

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      They have to comply with local laws. (Fuck them anyway but for entirely different reasons, at least in this case they’re following the law.)

      Who do we throw stones at boo mercilessly? Conservatism broadly, the kink-cult that makes everything about sex and denying sex while having the weirdest, worst sex behind the scenes. Making people scared of anything remotely sexual while also championing violence and hate.

      In the US, our pedo-in-chief started doing this too and you need to register your ID with the state to get into pornhub and other adult sites in some states. This is a spreading problem that people are too ashamed to push back on.

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        Dude I was recently visiting Florida. I totally forgot the fascist bullshit laws about porn there, was gobsmacked I couldn’t view pornhub. 5 minutes and a free vpn on my phone and I was happily watching my preferred smut.

        It’s so stupid how pointless the laws are, like it’s dumb easy to circumvent them.

        Just some real bullshit waste of time. Plus a waste of money for companies that try to comply with the Florida law. Pornhub just decided if you’re in Florida you can’t even use pornhub because they didn’t want to spend the money and time to comply with the stupid ass backwards law.

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          they didn’t want to spend the money and time to comply with the stupid ass backwards law.

          They didn’t want the liability and connection to a government database that will probably start looking for people who are into like, cuckolding or something, since that seems to be what the right is absolutely obsessed with.

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          Sometimes my VPN kicks me to one of those backwards ass states and I also get surprised by them. Swap states and I’m in.

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    The world and the internet are so low on trust, I kind of wish there was some entity we trusted.

    Some website where you could upload a photo, and people would actually know for sure that all the site is going to do is compare the photo to an ID, verify you’re over a certain age, and send a simple boolean “Yes” to the website that wanted to know if you were over-age. Or, to somehow know that your account is human and not a duplicate.

    We could do a lot with that, but as it stands, no person or entity can ever really be trusted with that kind of data; I think most wouldn’t even trust the same governments that issue those IDs.

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      The government already knows who you are! No need for a third party

      Just give you a fucking oauth login and have websites use that for age checks.

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      It’s simple, librarians or even gas station clerks look at your license and they give you a code that you can use idk 10 times for account signups.

      No scanning or tracking of who is requesting. Just make it an ID check like buying cigarettes

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            No, millennials’ and zoomers’ inability to actually parent their crotch goblins is why we can’t have nice things.

            They can’t say no to their kids so they have to bitch and moan at the companies to do it for them, which results in adults getting fucked over.

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      some entity we trusted.

      We can trust each other, just takes a little chemical and/or psychological manipulation.

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    That is, I believe, a British law that they’re following for users that appear to be in the UK. Not like they’re going to just disregard the law.

    kagis

    Yeah, the Online Safety Act 2023.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023

    The Online Safety Act 2023[1][2][3] (c. 50) is an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to regulate online content. Designed to protect children and adults online, it passed on 26 October 2023 and gives the relevant Secretary of State the power, subject to parliamentary approval, to designate and suppress or record a wide range of online content that is illegal or deemed “harmful” to children.[4][5]

    The act creates a new duty of care for online platforms, requiring them to take action against illegal content, or legal content that could be “harmful” to children where children are likely to access it. Platforms failing this duty would be liable to fines of up to £18 million or 10% of their annual turnover, whichever is higher. It also empowers Ofcom to block access to particular websites.

    So that’s what they’ll be aiming to do.

    Some websites and apps stated they would introduce age verification for users in response to a 25 July 2025 deadline set by Ofcom.[47] These include pornographic websites,[48] but also the social networks Bluesky and Reddit.[49][50]

    Probably should be mostly irritated with Parliament.

    I expect that using a VPN that terminates in another country will avoid it, though I bet that then you can’t do things like buy Reddit Gold, if that’s still a thing.

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      I’d add that if you pick Ireland as the VPN exit country, it will have notable benefits:

      • Sites that pick language based on IP will probably do English.

      • It probably won’t add much latency.

      • Ireland isn’t too bonkers and hopefully won’t have any large collection of online laws of their own that become an irritant.

      • Because Ireland has a considerably smaller population than the UK, if people in the UK do this at scale for pornography, it will make the Irish statistically look like absolutely indefatigable horndogs, which I think will be pretty funny on visualizations.

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      If you don’t mind my hijacking, I’ve seen the term “kagis” used a number of times on Lemmy, possibly only by you but I think also others. Based on the usage, I assumed it was a Latin word to indicate some sort of transition or side-bar, but it seems to just translate to “you are”, which doesn’t make sense in context. Can I ask what it means?

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        There’s a search engine named Kagi. It’s basically the equivalent of “googles” but for a different search engine.

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        Kagi is a new-ish search engine that is popular among Lemmy users. Those users are trying to get it to catch on, and have started using kagi as a verb, the same way people say “let me google that really quick.”

        It honestly feels a lot like when Microsoft was trying to get Bing and their phone OS to take off, and started slipping product placement into popular TV shows. There was a brief time period in American TV, where characters had the disgusting line of “Bing it!” Usually while showing the Bing home page on a Microsoft Phone. It was just blatant ham-fisted cringey product placement.

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          Yeah I’ve noticed this user basically inserts a “kagis” into like 2/3 of their comments, it always slightly irks me because it makes me feel like I’m getting advertised at. I’ve never felt the need to proclaim which search engine(s) I’ve used to research any particular comment on Lemmy, and I find it odd that the one person who does so regularly is doing it for a paid service.

          Apart from that, their comments are usually pretty good, so I’m not accusing them of shilling or anything, but I find it super peculiar.

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      It’s weird how they voted against it as opposition, but as soon as they took power just let it in.

      Almost as if that’s what they wanted all along.

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        UK politicians are among the worst. The US certainly has some trash but holy shit are there some real creatures in Parliament.

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    Here’s an interesting point. I just went to an nsfw sub to see if I’d get that prompt, and it gives me two ways to verify - selfie or photo ID. The photo ID has to be “government issued”, and maybe I don’t have one of those. The selfie is a link for a phone, using a QR code and I don’t have a phone that can scan QR codes.

    This means that in order to access said sub, I’d need to buy a new phone or wait 30 days or whatever to buy some kind of ID. Even with all the other reasons this sucks, that seems discriminatory.

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      I don’t have a phone that can scan QR codes.

      QR codes are a plain text encoding scheme. If you can screenshot it, you have access to FOSS software that can decode it, and you can paste that URL into your browser.

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          Who’s in the middle of this Venn Diagram between “uses some kind of custom OS on their phone to where their camera app doesn’t automatically read QR codes” and “doesn’t know how to install or use software that can read QR codes”?

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        Sure, but the point is, they also could’ve posted a simple link, instead of expecting users like the above, to go thru hoops.

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    Try using old.reddit.com. Literally just replace www with old, or add old in front of reddit.com. This should take you to a version of reddit’s interface which isn’t complete trash and it usually also allows you to bypass the need to login for NSFW content.