• Dessalines@lemmy.ml
    35·
    9 hours ago

    In case people aren’t aware, the Victims of Communism foundation is a US government organization that was set up by an act of congress in 1993.

    Congress also passed a bill funding them to design highschool curriculum, called the “crucial communism teaching act”.

    • monovergent 🛠️@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 hour ago

      Just reminded me of a history teacher who, when teaching the Containment policy, showed us a jar with a slip of paper contained within, which read “COMMUNISM”. Displayed prominently in the classroom thereafter.

      Didn’t work on me. When my assigned seat changed such that the jar and I were out of view of the teacher while at the board, I popped the lid off in front of everyone.

      Lol

    • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      4 hours ago

      The entire Nazi ideology is rooted in victim mentality. The notion that the “Aryan” race is being oppressed by those barbaric Jews, Slavs, Romani, Chinese, etc. And because of that they need to exterminate those people before they can exterminate the Aryans.

  • vane@lemmy.world
    102·
    10 hours ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Information_on_the_Crimes_of_Communism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_the_Study_of_Totalitarian_Regimes
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_the_Investigation_of_Communist_Crimes_and_the_Memory_of_the_Romanian_Exile
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_for_the_Documentation_and_the_Investigation_of_the_Crimes_of_Communism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_crimes_(Polish_legal_concept)

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    176·
    12 hours ago

    Often hilarious how the history is biased by some collectives. Officially US the good ones which won Nazi Germany, despite that is was Rusia and the allied, the US only enter when almost everything was done. After this the cold war, where secret US papers were filtred, specifying locations in Europe where they were going to use nuclear bombs to stop an alleged Russian invasion.

    Cuba crisis, it causes almost a WWIII, because evil Russia wanted to park there nuclear missiles. What is never mentioned, was,that it was an answer to the US nuclear missiles that were parked long before in Turkey, pointing to Russia. The escalation was avoided by an Rusian commander, while the US already had the finger on the red button.

    Yes, certainly communism is really bad and the US the good boys which always save the world, even by nuke civilians in two cities, training and arm jihadists and Talibans, destroying democracies supporting dictators, like the September 11 with over 3000 victims, in 1973, when the CIA organized and supported an military coup by Pinochet to eliminate Allende.

    Most of the currend Wars in the world and dictatorships are direct or indirect caused by the work of our good US boys. Thank you America, GFY

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      132·
      11 hours ago

      Officially US the good ones which won Nazi Germany, despite that is was Rusia and the allied, the US only enter when almost everything was done

      The Soviet Union (and I say that to emphasize that it was not simply Russia) and other Allies also played an important role in the Pacific Theatre too once they had some breathing space. I suppose the US glorify it so aggressively because it’s one of the few major wars they were on the winning side of, but when they rapidly promoted former Nazis to high political positions and launched Operation Gladio, one can’t help but realize their troops were only sent there to stop those Nazis, not Nazism.

      How easily the US’s friends are forgotten… [1][2]

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
        6·
        5 hours ago

        I have seen detailed explanations of why even their Pacific importance wasn’t as big as they claimed.
        And they intervened in Europe not to stop the nazis but the Soviets from taking it all, which would’ve happened in no time if they didn’t meet the ‘allieds’ in Berlin.
        I wonder who they were allied with BTW, since they saved 10000’s of nazis from the Soviets and evacuated them, or in Italy let them surrender and enabled them to go fight the Soviets.
        All of the nazis in the west got fully rehabilitated despite the handful of death penalties in the Nuremberg showtrials.

    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
      2015·
      17 hours ago

      I mean they could’ve not made a pact with Nazi Germany to jointly divide Eastern Europe. Like start from that.

      And before anyone mentions, that includes others who made pacts with them too.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
        223·
        16 hours ago

        Them: “so what should they have done?”

        You: “Well I’ll tell you what they shouldn’t have done!”

        So, in short, you can’t actually answer the question.

        • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
          49·
          15 hours ago

          Refuse to enable Nazi expansion, prepare for war, try to make allies. So carry on before they chose to make a pact. Making that pact with Nazis wasn’t some inevitable law of nature they just had to do. You can always resist.

          There’s always a reason for all kinds of actions but it’s just an attempt to avoid moral scrutiny to present the situation as inevitable. There were other options, they chose not to do those but rather made a pact. Agree or disagree with the decision from moral or some realpolitik sense, doesn’t matter. Presenting it as inevitable is avoidance.

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
            14·
            14 hours ago

            molotow-ribbentrop was to buy time to prepare for war. They built a huge industrial complex east of the Ural to prepare since they correctly predicted that their facilities in the west would soon be overrun. They also tried to find allies but were shut down at every turn. When it was clear that there were no allies to be found and every other nation had made a non-aggression pact with the nazis only then did they resort to making their own.

            • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
              210·
              14 hours ago

              I don’t think anyone thought the USSR did it for no reason. I’m just saying they could’ve chosen not to make those pacts and that’s why dividing Eastern Europe with the Nazis is given as a moral black mark for USSR.

              • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                14·
                14 hours ago

                Lol, anti communists will never forgive the USSR for not letting the Nazis have all of Eastern Europe.

              • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
                9·
                14 hours ago

                Why? It bought them time to prepare further and gave them the possibility to station troops forward in land that they knew was gonna be overrun by nazis and need liberation afterwards anyway. I really don’t understand what’s so bad about it. You dont win wars with “moral points” but with strategy like that.

                • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
                  18·
                  14 hours ago

                  You’re asking why making a pact with the Nazis is a black mark? I would think that’s obvious. Same for Chamberlain and everyone else.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            11·
            14 hours ago

            You really are writing a lot of responses that don’t answer the question. It’s funny how you go on about there being other options while diligently refusing to actually list them.

            • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
              110·
              14 hours ago

              Instead of making a pact with the Nazis, refuse to do that and prepare for war. Do you want a fucking WikiHow article detailing the steps for a troop mobilization of 1939 Soviet Union or what

              • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                11·
                14 hours ago

                They did prepare for war with the Nazis, and the pact was part of that. So I take it then your answer is that they shouldn’t have prepared as much for the war with the Nazis.

                Given that the level of preparedness they did manage was still only barely enough to win, you answer is ultimately that you wanted the USSR to take a course of action that would have allowed the Nazis to win the Eastern Front.

                Which is ultimately always what it comes down; resentment that the Soviets won.

                • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
                  17·
                  14 hours ago

                  I don’t think anyone should’ve made pacts with Nazis and enabled their actions through that. It’s not specific to the USSR.

  • Deflated0ne@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    1 day ago

    The black book is some hilarious stuff. They count the hypothetical unborn children of nazis. Also it counts the nazis.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      9·
      11 hours ago

      Reminder that multiple co-authors denounced the book when they saw how ludicrous the other sections were, such as tallying millions of Nazi soldiers as victims of communism.

  • iii@mander.xyzEnglish
    1013·
    1 day ago

    World War II began with a coordinated attack on Poland conducted by the Third Reich and the USSR, led by Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin respectively. As of 1 September 1939, the very first day of World War Two, both totalitarian regimes held joint military action against Poland. Starting from 1 September, German bombers were guided onto their targets in Poland from a radio station located in Minsk

    In accordance with the secret protocol as to Hitler-Stalin Pact, also known as the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, the new allies – Germany and the Soviet Union – were to jointly invade Poland. Red Army troops were to march into Poland three days following the Reich’s attack. Joseph Stalin, however, did not adhere to the protocol, with his troops advancing into Poland only 17 days after the Germans hit. The delay was caused by concerns over the propaganda discourse in the West, which Stalin wanted to focus on Germany solely.

    The class struggle is a cornerstone of Karl Marx’s philosophy. It requires a restructuring of society in accordance with communism. When put in practice, this brought about genocide: the killing of 10 to 15 percent of a given society as well as annihilating its elites and those strata of society that were unwelcome in a communist state. For communists they stood in the way of communist rule and of harnessing entire societies under a totalitarian regime.

    (1)

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      102·
      18 hours ago

      World War II began with a coordinated attack on Poland conducted by the Third Reich and the USSR

      Oh? What date did this “coordinated attack” take place, and how was the coordination handled? Presuming coordinating the movements of two different armies for such a large scale operation would have required a lot of back and forth signaling and planning, all of which would have become public record when the soviet archives were opened.