• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    By the way, you can GO TO XINJIANG as a tourist. You can talk to the people there. You can experience their culture for yourself. How’s the Freedom Floatila doing in comparison?

    Hell, go on RedNote, an explicitly PRC centric app with state control and cEnSoRsHiP and you’ll see Uyghurs in and outside Xinjiang proudly sharing their culture. Wonder how many Palestinians are allowed on Israeli social media.

    Also, Uyghurs can, get this, leave the country that’s “genociding” them and many do every year for the Haj pilgrimage. Can Palestinians do the same? Uyghurs can also, get this, go back to the same home and possessions they had before they left without worrying about an Israeli or Han Chinese family moving in while they were gone.

    Also also, look up “minority status” in China and how mixed race Han-Uyghur people usually identify with their Uyghur heritage on official papers because it opens up more social support programs like scholarships. They (and every other minority) were also automatically exempt from the One Child Policy which is a pretty stupid move if they’re trying to get rid of them. You literally get more perks from the government if you’re not Han, and this is supported by both the majority and minority ethnicities in China. What does Palestinian status in Israel get you again, I forget.

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    Every single “evidence” I’ve ever seen of this genocide ended up as hoax (remember the meat truck?), so I think it’s pretty safe to say it isn’t a thing.

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    This “Uyghur genocide” thing was debunked in like 2021, by Chinese Uyghurs. This argument should not still be happening.

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    I mean genocide doesnt concern buildings. There is a war in Gaza and not in Xinjiang. And there is many stages in Genocide. Palestinians are being killed nonindustrially and being displaced. Advanced, but not maxed-out genocide. Claims about Xinjiang say they are being forcefully sterilzed, and cultural leaders are being detained and tortured. I believe victims first and foremost.

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    It’s times like these when I wish I could just block an instance that isn’t defederated from mine.

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      I highly recommend you do that, rather than looking at anything that disagrees and asking "if my government lied to me about genocide in Palestine, the Gulf of Tonkin, and Vietnam war, what else may they be lying about, and why?”

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        Most people aren’t denying the genocide in Palestine and many other atrocities committed by the western nations. We’re just sick and tired of the people who deny the wrongdoings of China.

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          Your instance banned my blahaj account for talking about genocidesmany’s complicity in the pissraeli crimes. That’s genocide denial. Sit back down.

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            I’m sitting just fine, thank you very much. Not a single person I have met in my surroundings denies the fucking genocide going on in Palestine.

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          The people telling you about these alleged “wrongdoings of China” absolutely do deny the Palestinian genocide and many western atrocities beside

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      You could just go back to Reddit; then you’ll be nice and insulated from opposing views

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    Please prove yourself by walking in traditional uyghur clothing with an uyghur flag in a city like kashgar and live stream the event. Prove how accepting the general public is and how the police will treat you respectfully.

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        Many people said the same of Berlin, Hamburg, and other German cities while Jews were kept as slaves in factories and trained out to camps to be gassed. A nice looking city says nothing about the treatment of minorities. In fact many of the “nicest cities” in the world were built on the blood and bones of indigenous inhabitants.

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          Nobody had pocket video cameras during ww2 or sattelites that can take high definition photos of any patch of dirt on earth, with current tech it would be extremely easy to get a shitload of incontrovertible physical evidence from countless angles, and yet after years of accusations we have none

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              Nothing in this even comes close to proving a genocide, they can’t even conclusively prove that the structures in question are detention facilites lol, try harder patriot

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              To clarify, do I think the Uigers are being massacred at population scale? I don’t know. Do I think they are having their culture forceably erradicated and medical population control forced on them, and intentional han population being moved into the region to make them into a population majority to take away any regional political or social influence the Uigers might have? Absolutely.

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      Yes, don’t be surprised when the locals rightfully get pissed at a white person appropriating their culture in their homeland for internet clout.

      If you’re talking about the actual people of that cultutre doing it, there are tons on both RedNote and YouTube if you search in Chinese or Uyghur.

      Actually, most of these comments seem to stem from people not finding videos like these when searching in English and therefore automatically assuming they don’t exist. Even though they do. And that’s assuming you searched at all in any language which most of you haven’t. Surprise surprise, most Uyghurs in Xinjiang don’t speak or upload videos in English.