“Sometimes there’s a man… I won’t say a “hero,” because what’s a hero? But sometimes there’s a man who… well, he’s the man for his time and place!” – Sam Elliot (the Stranger) from the glorious The Big Lebowski
You know that classic quote about standing on the shoulders of giants (and pioneers)? Honestly, in so many ways, that’s how I truly feel about the good ol’ Fediverse.
So, to sum up-- who are YOUR heroes here, and what does keep you hanging on here, baby…?
EDIT: For people wondering about what kinds of ‘bumps & difficulties’ I’ve personally experienced, here’s a tiny sampler:
I’m not here despite what it is, I’m here because of what it is.
I can do no better than to second this sentiment.
was going to write something but this sums up what I wanted to say better than I could say it. I also quite like it as it is. It can stay like this forever for my tastes. I don’t want it improved to the level that im seeking something else.
Interactions feel genuine. I like talking to people here.
Can confirm. I am a human and I love human things such as… um… breathing air, and um…
It is a great day to be a human, fellow human!
I humbly confess I never watched that show
one of those things that’s quite funny and high production value but the fandom is largely obnoxious and some of the creators are jerks
it’s also not everyone’s style of humor. give it a shot sometime and see if it resonates though!
At first I also refused to watch since its animated and I thought it was childish, but then I learned that there are like a lot of dirty stuff and supposedly for adults, so, given how popular it became, I just had to watch it.
And its worth it. Yes, its weird af and I always feel so confused and something things just makes zero sense, but some stories are interesting. Never really got bored of any of it (although some episodes aren’t really that great for a re-watch imo).
The people. Gotten to know a lotta lovely people here. Like you! Also the Lemmy community as a whole is nice. It’s also a small cozy place.
I’m here because fuck Reddit and the US.
Just to be clear, what happened?
Why did we evidently lose your trust, if I may ask?
Trump threatened our countries sovereignty.
Yup.
Lol you are asking as if you don’t know the answer
Sorry, my telepathy couldn’t overcome your background noise.
Buddy you gotta be living in a cave or delusional or in denial if you don’t know what your countries reputation is and why
Buddy, that’s an hilarious leap to make right there, in which I’ve talked about this stuff all over the place, already. Oh! But maybe you do require an apology? Right so, mate:
SO SORRY I FORGOT ABOUT THE ORANGEY-SPECIFIC BEE-ESS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS CANADA THOUGH, BUDDY!
The relevant point being that that’s already been spewed and sprayed almost everywhere, such that I didn’t automatically remember CA’s specific beef.
I know, I know… I’m clearly a terrible person.
I like this place because it’s a work in progress and because of all its perceived imperfections.
I’m an old GenXer who remembers AOL chat rooms and Usenet. Each featured a small cluster of folks you’d talk with each day and thought of as friends. Reddit offered that kind of connection once, but now it’s become a monolith that believes its own hype. Not to mention the infestation of bots and trolls that no one cares enough to do anything about because engagement is engagement.
I’m new here so I’m still learning my way around but I like this way better. I have more control over what and who I see, the memes are fresher, and the communities feel more human.
FWIW, I’m GenX myself, BBS’s all the way! :D
I miss the old forums.
The peak of the internet.
They had their day, and I enjoyed them, but one thing I love about the Fediverse experience (patterned after Reddit of course), is that one can sample and subscribe to a super amount of divergent sources, and have it all pulled together in to one stream.
Outside of specialty forums, plus the pleasure of hanging out with online chums for years at a time, I’d argue that this method is in fact more useful and generally superior.
I miss the hanging out with the same online mates.
It occured to me when I quit Reddit that I hadn’t made a single friend on there in 10 years but made loads on the forums I used to frequent.
Haha, same. *sweat emoji*
I find the FV better in that regard though, perhaps because of the smaller userbase. So maybe size plays a role in these things.
Same age and feelings.
Because fuck Reddit
The app is decent.
That’s honestly 90% of it. If Reddit hadn’t programmed their app and mobile website with their feet, I’d probably still be over there.
Use free app redreader or payed app relay for reddit 2 bucks a month
On PC Reddit enhancement suite is your friend…
The other day I was using incognito and went to Reddit what an eyesore so many promoted threads…my lord
Oh I don’t even mind the algorithm. It’s just so full of bugs.
My anger for the destruction of the old internet. My hatred of those who profit from aforementioned destruction. My pettiness for going against the current.
It mostly works well.
Plenty of good and garbage content. I want both.
I don’t get the feeling there is a “motive” behind what I see when I am browsing content. It feels organic, like the old internet.
Joined Lemmy because of the whole r€ddit API thing. I was only on there maybe a couple years at the end, so I had no real super attachment like people who have been there for years. Not much else to say.
Same.
Except my -oldest- account was well over 10 years old when the API thing shut down the Baconreader app for good. Joined the squabbles app which imploded when the owner decided to let ‘free speech’ be allowed and it basically turned into a hateful place in about two weeks . Then joined lemme.ee, which got shuttered a few months back. Joined sh.itjustworks annnnd, bam, here I am.Though I’m only on here for about half hour or so a day due to deciding it was time to have less screen time in my life.
It sucks that lemm.ee was shuttered because that was where I first joined Lemmy as well before moving to whatever instance I’m on. Never heard of squabbles and don’t wanna known what it’s like Noe based off what say about it.
What does this tell us? Hate speech is the natural state of humans.
We need a replacement…
I don’t find that commercial social services are free of bumps and difficulties; they’re just different bumps and difficulties. They variously want me to:
- Log in to view this content
- Complete a captcha to view this content
- LOOK AT THIS AD
- Look at this other thing instead of reading through the rest of the comments on the post I opened
- Look at this other content instead of the people I chose to follow
- Consent to 237 different forms of tracking
- Pay for a premium account
- Don’t post anything too spicy for the advertisers
- Install an app
And people think picking a server to sign up or using an unpolished UI is a hassle? It’s a small price to pay to avoid that load of crap.
I use Lemmy and Mastodon because independent services that interoperate are how I want the internet to work. I still use some of the big commercial services because people or communities I value are there. It’s not all-or-nothing.
And people think picking a server to sign up or using an unpolished UI is a hassle? It’s a small price to pay to avoid that load of crap.
Strong disagree. I find that the learning curve is far bigger, more complex, yet also more subtle getting the ‘full FV experience’ than on Reddit. And I know a little something about that, having used my ~10yr experience there to create this WIP guide. Because most features or tips there are either still not available on the FV, or usually more complicated here.
Also, I’ve had a litany of issues using the FV, very briefly alluded to here:
https://piefed.social/post/1431056#comment_8685458But the FV is the real future IMO, so I keep on keeping on, as well as keep generating 95% of the content for my community here.
The comment you linked to says
For example, last time I checked, the top four FV software bases still don’t connect to the Lemmy / PieFed / etc side of things. Mastodon is just beginning to rudimentarily connect to PF, but IIRC Lemmy still doesn’t.
and I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Lemmy and Piefed obviously interoperate; you’re posting to !asklemmy@lemmy.world from a Piefed account right now. It’s a rougher experience trying to interact with forum-like software using blog-like software, but someone wanting that should probably just use two accounts.
“Not sure what I’m talking about?” Really?
So, according to the “Fediverse-Observer” (and similar services AFAIK), in terms of software, sorting by user-count, it seems the top four user-bases are:
- Mastodon: 9.4mil
- MissKey: 3.2mil
- nodeBB: 2.5mil
- Lemmy: 1.2mil
Now ask yourself how many of those (plus others) are STILL largely unconnected in terms of the FV. See my point now…?
Nevermind. But, dude-- just because I started this thread up and made some vanilla, non-controversial statements, with no intention of specifically putting anyone down here, does not mean that I have any automagic responsibility to do others’ homework for them, as in your case, evidently.
And, dude-- I’ve already offered something like 2doz personal replies here to the many, many comments and queries, upon this thread. Still, if you like, I suppose I could create a sort of an ‘extra-guide adjunct’ for people who clearly slacked on their homework, and for some reason want ME to make up for that.
Cool…?
So, according to the “Fediverse-Observer” (and similar services AFAIK), in terms of software, sorting by user-count, it seems the top four user-bases are
Not relevant to the comment where you posted the following to a Lemmy community from Piefed:
Mastodon is just beginning to rudimentarily connect to PF, but IIRC Lemmy still doesn’t.
Which looks to me like you’re saying “Lemmy still doesn’t connect to Piefed”, but reading it three more times I guess it’s possible you meant “Lemmy still doesn’t connect to Mastodon”.
If you meant the latter, then I do have some idea what you’re talking about. It actually is possible to interact with one from the other with the constraint that Lemmy can only see Mastodon posts that tag communities. It’s not a smooth experience at all to try to consume community-based content from Mastodon.
Wow… congratulations on representing EXACTLY the kind of weirdness and negativity I was alluding to, above. So have fun with that, mate! And I do hope others come to appreciate your particular sense of ‘you-ness.’
Good bye.
Here because its a great experiment and a reminder of the old internet that is otherwise mostly lost.
All social platforms get worse all around us. Fedi isn’t perfect or drama-free but around here every third post isn’t a targeted ad that knows too much about me trying to make me feel guilty or inadequate.
This! And good content is not being washed away by clickbait
Plus, we’re not being monetized and our content exploited, as with all the commercial social media platforms.
The worst aspects of the fediverse are really just the worst aspects of people rather than the worst aspects of people plus the worst effects of profit motives that you find on corporate social media. Also folks are really inclined to try to shun bad behavior rather than reward it with engagement that can directly lead to money for the poster
The vibe is a lot like “the old internet”. Sure, you don’t get a lot of responses most of the time, but those you do get are genuine and in good faith.
On reddit you can post the most innocuous thing and be met with ridicule or disdain. Most of the posts I made were commented on in a negative way. Even harmless things like “I found this funny product at the supermarket” in the appropriate subreddit was met with insults and a bunch of negative comments. Asking for advice on a popular advice subreddit got me a bunch of insults.
Here I have few answers, but those are genuine ones and so far they’ve been in good faith, no unprovoked insults, no sifting through someone’s history to insult them based on a post from 3 years ago.
Expanding on this, because you have said almost the same I was thinking, I feel AI slop and bots aren’t really a thing here, or they are easy to filter.
On reddit, you can post the most innocuous thing and be met with ridicule or disdain…
Yeah, I hear you on that one.
Overall, I find Reddit to be a fairly well-informed, left-leaning (which in any other 1st world country would simply be ‘average centrist’) base, but the place is indeed also chock-full of dude-bros who form kind of a vast, ‘mean-girls’ clique IMO. And they like nothing better than to punish people (or in their juvenile words “shit on”) others for not conforming and communicating in modern ‘Reddit-speak.’
So, all-in-all something of a fascinating psychological study in to how people self-guide in to becoming deliberate weirdos, haha. Anyway, yeah, sorry to hear you had to deal with all that toxicity, as a newcomer. :/
Absolutely. Reddit just gets so nasty. Lord knows WHY people feel the urge to siftthrough someone’s history and bitch them out but they do and they’re cruel. The sheer size of reddit gives them anonyminity but also reddit don’t do much about it.
I like how personal it is here, people kinda know each other and it is like the olden days. It’s a good community and you get friendly, genuine comments with far fewer bad apples. I’m really happy here
Pfft
I love the FV. No ads. No algorithm.
And that it requires a little effort means fewer dumbass jerks around.
