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        It’s almost entirely the cost of living VS income, very little to do with politics.

        I don’t know how to describe how stupid leaving NZ for Australia because of politics would be.

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          Are you implying that the economy is not a political issue? Who do you think makes the economic policy in NZ?

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    A businessman-cum-conservative leads the country since 2023, in coalition with far-right populists.
    After two terms of Labour government.

    Pretty much the same happened in my country, and yes, the effects are palpable, esp. if you work in the public or social sector.

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        Similar to the US going from Obama to Trump in 2016. Left got complacent, while the right stoked fear with lies and propaganda.

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          That fear mongering and manipulation did not only come from internal right wing forces but has been a coordinated effort through social media influence by adversaries. It’s still happening and it’s happening all over the world apart from the couple of countries it’s originating from.

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          Obama was not a badass, he was a charismatic young illegal drone striking war criminal who reversed course on several key campaign promises.

          He wasn’t Trump, but he wasn’t a leftist workers hero, you deserve and should demand better than Democrats.

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            Everyone wants to remember the hope and change, no one wants to remember the extrajudicial killing of Americans.

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            Exactly. When he took the stage to a cheering crowd after his win, I KNEW he would just be one more weak, useless Democratic placeholder, just there to give the PedoCons enough time for bad memories of the last disastrous Republican administration to fade, so they can manipulate their way back into office, and continue their destruction.

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              Besides you guys, nobody even knows what that means. When you drag “liberals” on Lemmy and Reddit, most people just think you’re a trump supporter.

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    I’d love to move to NZ but your immigration laws are insane…

    I’m austrian and it’s basically impossible to move to NZ for me

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      I promise you you wouldn’t like living there as much as you think. I agree our immigration laws are really shitty though, and you should be allowed to come find out for yourself what a crappy country we are.

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        When I was in NZ it was a fabulous country with really friendly people. Even the cops.

        But this was 20 years ago. Though it sounds like it was a great place under Jacinta too.

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          Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of wonderful things about it, but living there is much worse than visiting. It is very normal to have mould all through your house and have to wear your coat indoors in the winter because you can’t afford to heat and the house has no insulation, we have staggeringly high levels of poverty for a “developed” country. Yes, people are friendly, the nature is some of the best in the world, and the lifestyle is relaxed. But the disparity between incomes and cost of living means most normal people are really quite struggling to make ends meet, the health system is a shell of its former self, and things are just overall getting worse quite rapidly. I know that’s not unique, most of the Anglosphere has basically the same issues, but we already started at the lower-income end of that group.

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            I understand. I wasn’t aware of that. I don’t think those problems were around when I was there, or at least not as severely. And yes the nature is amazing. I’d go there on holiday all the time if it wasn’t 24 hours actual flight time 😭

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              Ignore the doomer. There are some ratty old houses around, but there are also plenty of places that are modern and well insulated. We’ve had something of a building boom over the last few years, driven in large part due to changes in zoning rules, so a huge number of town houses and apartments have been built. It’s also possible to retrofit insulation to an extent, which we’ve done in our house. We now have underfloor and ceiling insulation, as well as double glazed windows.

              A lot of rentals have been retrofitted wherever possible, as there are now minimum standards for rental properties.

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          There’s a lot of things the Ardern government failed on. Cost of living, cost of housing, both to rent and to buy, child poverty, they all got measurably worse under her government.

          She’s viewed far more favourably than she deserves to be, especially internationally where their failures didn’t make the news.

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            I mean, I think that’s the exact same thing that’s happened to every single English speaking country over the past 5-10 years (probably others but I’m only semi-familiar with English speaking ones.

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    there is no cause for alarm, noting that global workforce flows continue to bring skilled migrants into the country

    Hey USA, this is the time. Not next year, right. This. Minute.

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    Something to remember when reading these headlines, is that Australia is a ridiculously wealthy country, in large part due to mineral wealth, and anyone in NZ can just go there and get a job.

    It has almost nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with making more money.

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      If that’s the case why is it record numbers now?

      Australia has had mineral wealth for a very long time, that’s nothing new.

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        New Zealand has had a constant outflow of people to other countries that ebbs and flows for at least 40 years. I left during a previous surge. Home prices are too high, wages are too low, and better opportunities can be found abroad. When other economies start slowing down, a lot of people return to NZ.

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          That’s fair, but that’s due to politics.

          Wealth and quality of life are hugely dependent upon the politics of a place.

          Which form of politics is correct is a debate that has existed since forever, but there’s no getting away from the fact that politics determines wealth, quality of life, and ultimately whether people wish to immigrate, emigrate, or stay put.

          Well, that and the weather 😝

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            It really isn’t politics. New Zealand is very isolated from other countries, so the price of imported goods are high. It is also a small nation that is primarily farms, so there isn’t much room for development and home prices are high. It has a small steel industry but otherwise there isn’t a lot of manufacturing unless it is related to dairy.