Cruise CEO says SF ‘should be rolling out the red carpet’ for robotaxis, threatens to maybe leave town::In his first major public interview since the DMV cut their San Francisco fleet in half, Cruise CEO Kyle Vogt said “we cannot expect perfection” from the self-driving cars, and vaguely threatened to leave town if regulators curtail them any further.

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    If a company can’t make a profit without making citizens lives worse, they should be encouraged to leave.

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      Cruise already creating huge traffic deadlocks in Texas as their cars stop in the middle of the intersections

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        Where do they operate in Texas? I go all over the state regularly, but I don’t usually go to the downtown areas where I would probably encounter one.

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          Downtown Austin. I bet if they leave SF, they’ll move their entire fleet to Austin, which is terrible news.

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            Now I’m imagining a giant caravan of self driving cars going down the interstate. Known how well they perform, we’ll see them either blocking the left lane, or all lanes.

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    You MUST DEMAND perfection from self driving cars. Mistakes cost lives.

    Fuck this guy.

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      I don’t know about “perfection”, but we should at least aim to be better than most human drivers.

      I’d be comfortable holding robot drivers to the same standard as human drivers if there were similar levels of accountability. That said, I think the current standards for licensing human drivers are far too low. Tons of people on the road are simply not capable of driving safely, consistently, and legally. I would support measures to raise the bar for human drivers as well, but since that is extremely unlikely, we can at least establish better standards for the future.

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        Just hold the CEO directly liable for any deaths or injuries. Like someone gets hit? That’s a reckless driving charge for the CEO. They would get perfect real quick.

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        As a pedestrian, I’d sooner trust a self-driving car to ID and stop for me than I’d trust a human to do the same. Humans make way more mistakes than these cars do. It just doesn’t make the news when humans fuck up cause we do it all the damn time. But accidents are so rare for self-driving cars that every time one happens, it makes headlines, and then a bunch of idiots show up in the comments to throw shade at them when they’re much worse drivers themselves.

        And then more idiots show up and upvote them.

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        Yeah a lot of people drive selfishly and dangerously. Until we get alternative transportation, however, more stringent licensing will just condemn poorer folks to worse poverty and possibly being cast to the streets.

        We need better public transportation before we can cripple people’s ability to get where they need to be. Including work.

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        I’ve always thought that self-driving cars won’t be mainstream until local departments of transportation are actively aiding in surrounding recognition for these vehicles. Cities will need to make sure their paint is maintained much more often so that yellow and white lines are much more easily recognized by AI. Also need more of those LED street lights with the hoods so that the colors of the light better stand out. I’m sure there are also better way to make signs more readable to AI as well, but all of these needs to be done with the help from local governments. Autonomous vehicles get better the more other autonomous vehicles are on the road.

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          I’d want it to be regulated like other safety features. If they shipped a car with faulty brakes or any other safety defects, it would be a legal issue. Fines, recalls, etc. Ideally it should be enough that half-assing it would put them out of business.

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      Perfection right out of the gate is impossible, but I think SF is too big for these kinds of tests. Use smaller towns if anything

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    He already tried the leave but someone had put a cone on the front of the car and it refused to move

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    and vaguely threatened to leave town.

    Don’t threaten me with a good time!

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    Tech CEOs are the most deluded, self-aggrandizing, and entitled people on the planet. The only thing that separates them from ideas guys on modding forums is that they had mommy and daddy’s money.

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    Typical tech company arrogance. They think they’re single-handedly saving the world and that their genius is never appreciated enough. The same sort of garbage thinking espoused by ayn rand where supposedly society would fall apart without these so-called geniuses.

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    I don’t really know how you can threaten someone when you need them more than they need you.

    If you leave town, where are you going to go? The city doesn’t need you. If you’re not making what you want/need here, go ahead, leave, the city won’t be hurt by it. You will, though. Because you’ll have to pack up your business, set it up somewhere else, and hope that they do the things you want them to. It’ll be expensive for you, won’t mean a thing to the city.

    So how is it a threat?

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      That isn’t a rule at all. People in the mafia notoriously make vague threats containing words like maybe that should absolutely be taken as threats.

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    If they keep up the conceited attitude of taking this for granted I wouldn’t be surprised to see SF local elections going to whichever candidate promises to be tougher on robo taxi betas roaming a city of 3.3 million, then where will your red cerpet be? The residents already hate you.

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    So you have a bunch of 3,000 lb autonomous missiles cruising around town and you think we shouldn’t accept perfection? Lmao