Whelp, here we go again

  • daveyeah@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Mmmm, gotta love that enshittification strategy every big tech company is working on right now.

  • liminis@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Another executive-driven decision by people who clearly don’t use their own product (kinda impressive really when it’s YT).

    I can’t help wonder if they saw an uptick in adblocking as a result of their absurd increases in ad-time recently and somehow thought this was a reasonable solution.

    • LemmyAtem@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      I rarely use YouTube, but my nephew (he’s two) was over the other day and we put on some cartoons for him that were in YouTube since my wife and I don’t have Disney plus. I couldn’t BELIEVE how many ads it showed. One five-minute merry melodies cartoon had FOUR SEPARATE ad breaks, the third and fourth of which were both 3+ minutes long if you weren’t paying attention to skip.

      Wtf?! Not even shit ass normal broadcast television has that many commercials.

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        1 year ago

        Feels like every year corporations rely on the naivety of youth in an attempt to push more and more egregious shit.

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          Exactly right they’re normalizing ads in everything. They’re indoctrinating the youth, who don’t know any better or differently, into just accepting/expecting that all content in all forms comes with ads, and you can’t watch any of it without signing in so they can track you and sell your data.

    • ozoned@beehaw.org
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      Executives don’t have to watch ads! They’re rich! I wouldn’t be surprised if they all had YT Premium or whatever it is.

    • stallmer@lemmy.one
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      1 year ago

      Interest rates hikes stopped the free money, so companies need profit.

      I’d argue they don’t need $500 million when they already make $400 million, but I’m just a lowly peasant.

      tl;dr: capitalism

  • that_one_guy@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Did all these tech companies just get together and decide to fuck us over around the same time? Seriously, what is going on with all these companies rolling out hugely unpopular new rules/changes all on one another’s heels?

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      1 year ago

      The end of 0% interest means “business” no longer have access to free money. So now they want benefits, and growth but without the spending.

      Also we skipped a tech bubble crash around 2008, so these corpos deaths are more than overdue.

      The cicle as Doctorow says in his enshification tesis is:

      1.- be good to your users, spending tons of that VC and 0% interest loan free money.

      2.- be shit to your users, be good to your clients (add buyers, business that use your platform to do business)

      3.- be shit to everyone. Squeeze the platform and get every last dime of value as profit.

      Once you are in 3 there is no coming back. But these corporations have pulling the ladder behind them using an extra decade of dominant position to try to stop the cicle.

  • Buttons@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    And what are the consequences of “strikes”? Will you delete my Google account, including my email, and also screw up my Android phone and my kids Chromebook?

    It’s scary to realize that Google has me by the balls here. They can screw me in so many ways, and screw my family members as well. I’d rather have my bank credentials stolen than my email credentials, at least I can get real customer service from the bank, I can even go to a physical location and speak face-to-face with someone who can help me. Google wont give me customer support, and my email account is the closest thing to an identity I have for most businesses I interact with.

    It takes a lot of work to avoid Google. Yes, there are alternatives, but in D&D terms, avoiding Google is like a -2 to all stats for your entire life, and not something we can expect the general population to do.

    All this shows the need for anti-trust enforcement. The same company is controlling too much. Bust 'em up!

    • GravityAce@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Spend a weekend degoogling your stuff. There are alternatives for everything now. No regrets

    • The Doctor@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      That would be the logical thing for them to do. All it takes is a couple of folks taking it in the neck from them to make the rest fall in line.

  • TrainsAreCool@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Personally, I’d rather pay for Nebula than YouTube premium. Most of the creators I actively follow are on there anyways, and the few that aren’t (usually the ones with very long videos) I should probably just watch with ads anyways to support them.

  • ram@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I’ll stop blocked ads when I stop using their service. Not a minute sooner.

  • Glide@lemmy.ca
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    Ad blocker detection is not new, and other publishers regularly ask viewers to disable ad blockers

    “everyone else is treating their customers like garbage, so they don’y hold it against us”.

    Yes, we can.

    I didn’t block when you had 5 second ads. I didn’t block when you had 15 second ads. I started blocking when you’d play 2+ unskippable 15 second ads back-to-back. I didn’t mind sitting through an ad when I appreciate the service you offered. Now, you’re just being greedy, and I will go to great lengths to damage your bottom line as notably as I can.

  • ConsciousCode@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Recently found this gem: https://adnauseam.io/

    It’s an ad blocker that only hides ads and clicks them for you in the background, which means you waste advertiser’s money, support creators, can’t get flagged for ad blocking as easily, and they can’t build a proper profile against your ad activity since it’s all noise. Haven’t installed it yet, but this might be the push I needed.

  • agitatedpotato@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Twitch couldn’t beat my adblocking, it just taught me how to find and use custom scripts. Shoot your shot YT, I haven’t installed a script for your website yet but now Im gonna have too. Congrats the number of ads im gonna see from you is about to go down.

  • DEXSIC@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    YouTube without an adblocker is such a mess. I wish alternatives like https://odysee.com had more of the content I watch and less Nazi bullshit though. YouTube really needs some strong competition since they have an effective monopoly on long-form videos on the internet. :(

  • JillyB@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Hot take: this sucks, but YouTube premium is legit. I wish more platforms offered a paid, ad-free way to interact. I don’t feel like figuring out a way around ads but I’m not about to start watching them. So I pay a few bucks a month.

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      I don’t mind paying for services I use to avoid my data being the payment (like Kagi or Protonmail).

      But I don’t like the idea of paying Google AND having my data farmed.

    • TehPers@beehaw.org
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      I’d be more willing to pay if it wasn’t $10/mo (annual cost) for a bunch of stuff I don’t care about. If they had a cheaper option that was just ad-free (maybe $5/mo?), I’d be down for that.

      I also like what Kagi does with their duo plan for 2 users. Some kind of duo plan for YT premium would be nice as well, since I (and many others, I’m sure) don’t have a family of 6 people.

    • Scrumpf_Dabogy@beehaw.org
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      Same. I hate google, but YouTube pays content creators better than any other platform. And I am 100% on board with any service where I pay a monthly cost instead of being inundated with ads.

    • shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org
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      It’s simply a more honest model - you get content, they get money.

      I would love to be able to pay for an ad-free experience for the various websites and services that I browse and use in a straightforward way instead of being leeched for ad-revenue

      • anon@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        I wouldn’t doubt paying a hundred per month to have an ad-free life.

        no ads on tv or sports, no billboards, no ads on buses. it would be awesome

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      Also the student version is so cheap and there is so much more content than anything really. YouTube music is awesome too.

  • NoTime@lemmy.one
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    What happens if you use SmartTubeNext on a TV? I’m assuming the interface wouldn’t support the 3 strike YouTube popup so I guess you’d just get blocked without knowing why?

    I’m guessing ReVanced will support the popup so you’d know.