• bequirtle@lemmy.world
    61·
    4 hours ago

    IME, KDE Discover and similar app stores are so unreliable, telling beginners to use them is akin to harmful misinformation

    If you need a GUI software manager, my suggestion is to not use arch

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 hours ago

      If you need a GUI software manager, my suggestion is to not use arch

      Arch is actually great for beginners, way better than usual alternatives like Ubuntu for example. If you need a GUI software manager, Arch or Arch derivatives are still better than a lot of the rest.
      Besides, a lot of people like fancy GUIs, nothing wrong with that. You’re right that graphic app stores aren’t amazing, but that’s shouldn’t be the norm then. I will still do everything in CLI, but I will vehemently defend our less technically advanced bretheren’s right to click their mouse on the colourful buttons

      • bequirtle@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 hours ago

        To be clear I’m not against GUI software managers, just had bad experiences with KDE Discover… and I don’t trust anyone who recommends Arch for beginners…

        If you never want to see a terminal just use Mint or whatever

    • SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Hard agree. I always struggled when using Discover, as a Beginner. Don’t know if I could make it work now as a more experienced user, Because I don’t use it and don’t have a need to. Learning how to use ‘pacman -S $pkg_name’ was super simple and is very fast. Sure I don’t have a nice GUI, that lets me browse what apps are there to be installed, but I have a webbrowser for that.

  • Speiser0@feddit.org
    22·
    12 hours ago

    Installing something on arch is easy imo. The CLI is simple and well enough documented, and the package build system is easy to use. For comparison with ubuntu: pacman -S name is not harder than apt install name. And try to install something on ubuntu if it’s not in the official package repos.

      • ekZepp@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        10 hours ago

        -S, --sync

        Synchronize packages. Packages are installed directly from the remote repositories, including all dependencies required to run the packages.

        • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          3·
          4 hours ago

          Technically correct answer but not super helpful imo. yay <package name> starts a search from which you enter your selection(s) from matches. yay -S <package name> installs the package directly, errors if it’s not found

  • Brokkr@lemmy.world
    10·
    15 hours ago

    I’m not an expert, but I thought on Arch you are specifically not supposed to use the discover store because it can cause partial updates which can in turn cause major problems.

    However, the point still stands, pacman and the AUR are easy and have nearly everything.

    • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
      10·
      14 hours ago

      The AUR is a great resource but it’s also being sold as a package repository users don’t need to actively think about or understand. I honestly think malware is going to be much more common on the AUR if we aren’t careful.

    • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      15 hours ago

      Eh. I haven’t had issues for a few months and I back up my files on a weekly basis and -Syu once or twice a month. Worst case scenario, I’ll just reinstall and restore from backup.

      Also, I mainly use Discover for high level stuff like browsers and IDEs.

        • NathanUp@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          2 hours ago

          IMO it’s overblown. If you even have an issue at all, 99.99% of the time it’s user error. And to mitigate that, you just use timeshift with BTRFS and snapshots on GRUB.

      • Ooops@feddit.org
        3·
        13 hours ago

        Flatpak just working would be a nice thing. Everytime I try they fuck something new up…

        (Last time I thought about installing Steam via Flatpak on Arch to get rid of all the multilib 32bit stuff not needed for aynthing else anymore it worked for nearly 4 days. Then flatpak update randomly uninstalled its nvidia drivers because an “update” removing the old package first, then realizing it can’t find the new one make total sense of course.)

  • rtxn@lemmy.worldM
    7·
    15 hours ago

    The original image gives me strong “Shepard, Tali, and Garrus doing shenanigans” vibes.

  • Hiro8811@lemmy.world
    18·
    12 hours ago

    I get where most comments saying to use pacman or yay but it’s not a good idea to install everything with terminal. Also KDE discover uses flathub and into bazaar is a better client for it.

    • Shanmugha@lemmy.world
      51·
      8 hours ago

      Downvotes you already have, so I will restrict myself to explaining:

      • CLI is the only way I’ve ever installed anything in a Linux OS. Has served me well for a decade or more
      • doing stuff without knowing what you are doing is going to land you in a mess, no matter how hard GUI tool devs are trying to prevent that
      • Hiro8811@lemmy.world
        21·
        4 hours ago

        Top notch logic here. Driving a car without knowing the inner workings of the car will land you in a mess.

  • PointyFluff@lemmy.ml
    222·
    13 hours ago

    Imagine being so inept that you can’t use a terminal to install a terminal-based update. Arch users are posers and script kiddies and need to STFU

    • Xenny@lemmy.world
      4·
      5 hours ago

      Wow look. It’s the reason that linux market share is as low as it fucking is.

      Like dude, maybe people can use the terminal just fine but prefer the GUI. What if having the GUI it really opens up accessibility to less technically competent users And promotes adoption of the OS across the board?

      What if using this GUI leads to users using the terminal for more complex tasks? Have you ever thought of that??

      Or are you too busy being some elitist snob in your basement?