tl;dr: after pushing rcs so hard for years, killing hangouts well after forgetting about it, & hiding it from gmail, google now wants you to use its (and google allo’s) successor, google chat.

  • chris.@beehaw.orgOP
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    1 year ago

    google’s messaging strategy has gotten so bad that they now have to remind consumers which of the apps are made for them. i myself had no clue that the google chat app in the play store was targeted towards consumers, i just assumed that the app was google workspaces only considering they always push rcs & that the play store description doesn’t go two sentences without talking about enterprise & google workspaces.

    it’s kinda wild when you consider that they had a 17 year headstart on this & still somehow lost the messaging app/site race multiple times

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      1 year ago

      How long until they close down the Google Chat app and move to something else that is barely different?

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        This is Google’s biggest problem, I think. They’re so flaky on their products and services, I find myself not wanting to bother trying things out in case they don’t become popular enough for Google to maintain. I saw a lot of the same remarks about Stadia, and though I seem to remember Google assuring Stadia was playing the long game, well, we see how that played out.

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      I enjoyed using Hangouts. I still do. But the plethora of communication apps Google makes always give me chills that the judgement day is just round the corner. And by the time it arrives, it will just end up as another name on the list without much resort.

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        same, back ~2015-2018 i was hangouts’ biggest fan. now i avoid most google platforms in general aside from gmail, android & youtube. i can’t trust anything else to stay around anymore, & even when they do keep an app alive they end up just endlessly shuffling them around like this for no reason

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      Got my immediate family on it. Miss some features when forced elsewhere.

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      1 year ago

      Signal is great. But it’s so hard to convince anyone in my family to use it as almost everyone here (in Finland) uses whatsapp to communicate.

      But I have few groups in signal with my IT-related friends.

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      Surprisingly it’s been really easy to get people on signal, haven’t had to really try convincing people at all just explain what it is and they get it

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    Killing hangouts just made me use other platforms and throw Google in the bin.

    When they keep killing stuff I use, I get burnt.

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      Yeah, I hit a point around 2018 where I went from being a huge fan of Google’s to switching to iOS and trying to degoogle my life as much as possible (but also not wholly relying on one company for anything. I still have Google photos, but I also have local backups of all my photos, plus they’re in OneDrive and iCloud for example)

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      This trend is bad for the Google brand, and I’m surprised that the higher ups there don’t understand it. Why should I use a Google service and get attached to it if they are going to unexpectedly remove it entirely?

      How long until Google Earth gets the axe? Or even Gmail? I’m writing this on my Google Pixel, but they could theoretically just say “naw we wanna leave the phone market” and then may not make the phone any longer or not provide OS or security updates if that is their prerogative.

      For such a large tech company, they have the resources to run these services at cost in order to have their users be more valuable to them in the long term.

      I’m still bitter about them completely dismantling the original Google Talk desktop application two decades ago (yes they weren’t shortened to app then lol) as it was the best communication platform of its time and had very clear voice comms.

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    I always used to use allo and hangouts when I was a flight attendant as they would still send messages despite the airlines paywall for the internet on their wifi. no idea how it worked but was awesome little gimmic

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    1 year ago

    My D&D group uses it for planning. It’s basically the only context where I use it. It’s suitable to the task, but doesn’t really have any distinguishing features.

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      I don’t think I ever even heard of Allo until the news articles started coming out about Google killing it off. I used Hangouts briefly, but I didn’t know a lot of people who used it. I am surprised they are trying chat again.