Luigi (with Linux Mint logo) and Mario (Ubuntu logo) come in
Mother: It’s-a the Ubuntu Bros!
Linux Mint (Luigi): Mama why-a you never remember my name?
Mother: I’m-a sorry Green Ubuntu
Debian: “Stop complaining, she calls me Old Ubuntu.”
The mother is Debian.
And Slackware is the grandmother?
Meanwhile Pop_OS! is back in Brooklyn keeping the plumbing business going.
*plumbing … unless you were going for some sexual innuendo I don’t understand
Time to lay some pipe.
Thank you. I first typed “pumping” and only fixed half the typo before I hit post.
Real talk, Pop_OS! is just nice. Besides Blackbox and like 3 Gnome Extensions I hadn’t had to change or add anything. It’s a great experience and I recommend it to everyone.
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I’ve been using nobara, it’s fedora based and has made me swith from windows to it full-time. I’ve had zero issues with it. You may want to check it out?
(Also iirc it’s made by Glorious Eggroll, the guy who made GE-Proton)
I too love laying pipe
Mint is my first distro! Love it as a nice simple intro to Linux.
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You mean as a familiar looking?
Sure, it’s easy to get into and install for anyone used to Windows.
Why would anyone want to use off brand windows? 🤔😐
Because it’s an easy transition to Linux, which is beneficial in numerous ways. If you’re gatekeeping Linux distros, you can kindly leave normal people alone.
Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?
It comes with like 6 desktops right in the installation. And there are another 20 more available too.
And ubuntu etc is just debian with a fancy desktop, right?
And debian is fast, lightweight and stable as heck. Don’t they use it on the spaceshuttle?
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Don’t you just love how with phones you don’t really have one?
Google is breaking their backs locking down Android tighter than a nun’s cooch, and generally enshitifyijg every garbage product they offer. Where’s my third fucking option?
Pinephone?
Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?
Debian is good, but people working on polishing a thing from 9 to 5, 5 days a week can do a lot.
ubuntu has firewall protection already to go. I heard if you used debian you have to install UFW or other things on your own
For what you need a firewall on a desktop-client?
For everything? You still shouldnt be running all ports open around. As it would ease the work of hackers getting backdoor access.
So just close the ports (or more precise: Do not open them, as “closed” is the default for most software on Linux).
Yup, and if some bad software wants to create malicious webserver they can not do it as all the ports that are open are used in a legit way. And thus can not really communicate either one or the other way.
A webserver listens on port 80 or 443. Neither port can be claimed by a normal user (no port below 1024 can). But yes if you manage more than your own user on a desktop AND these other users are not allowed to start programs on their own THEN a firewall can be helpful; but this is not a normal situation for a desktop-client, isn’t it?
ok that’s one thing about ubuntu that I didn’t know.
Only moonmen use debian
I’m pretty sure they need real time systems on a spaceshuttle
I think the real time requirement can be relaxed for self contained experiment packages. And given that the shuttle ran a healthy number of student experiments, it’s pretty likely that X system has appeared.
I believe crew laptops for email and stuff are also running non real-time systems.
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Just installed Mint on my Surface Pro 4 that’s been sitting in a drawer for years and guess what, it’s now useable again! Praise be Linux.
Good to hear! My main computer is my desktop, running Mint. (I’m using it right now.) But I also have a Surface Pro 4 that I use for work. It has no problems and works fine on Windows… but I have been wondering if I can move that away from Windows as well. So its encouraging to hear that it has worked for you.
Does Mint have good support for the stylus and touch-screen on the Surface 4? (I imagine the Surface tech might be specialised to Windows a bit, so I wouldn’t be confident those would work immediately in Linux.)
Nope, it does not. You can install a kernel made just for surface devices and you’ll get mouse emulation via touch, but Mint doesn’t have Wayland yet and it’s my understanding that Wayland is where all the good things, like gestures, lives. So, I’m waiting for that but it honestly works fine without the touch. I’d use it if it was there, but it’s fine honestly.
That said, I’ve been using Linux/osx as my primary at work for a lot of years now so I’m super unfamiliar with even basic sysadmin stuff on Windows, so I’m happy that the surface is now on Linux. Need to move my desktop to it one day, but I honestly almost never use it.
My surface pro 4 still works great with windows also and even though I ran mint on the laptop I used before it I have no intention of replacing windows on the SP4 at least until support for 10 is done.
Even though I don’t use the touchscreen often, it’s not a feature I’d be willing to sacrifice either.
It’s not entirely impossible that a driver for the touchscreen actually exists.
I don’t know about this specifically, but in my experience with Mint, it’s very plug and play with this kind of stuff. I’m always really impressed by just how little setup Mint needs.
Green Ubuntu best Ubuntu!
But Mint is better <.<
I guess the thing is “Ubuntu is the friendly distro” but then also “Mint is the friendly distro?” Way back in like 2009 (okay, turns out it’s been a little while) Mint was super comfy and Ubuntu already felt like it was in my way without actually being any easier.
Peach is Hanna Montana Linux
I’m Waluigi btw
I like the joke from the '89 movie, Mario Mario and Luigi Mario, Mario is the last name.
1993
My mistake, always think '89. Idk why.I love Jon Luigizamo though.
Use linux mint debian edition because ubuntu sucks ass
It’s a bit extreme to say Ubuntu sucks ass. Ubuntu brought Linux to the masses.
That’s true but…I have been in GNI/Linux for just a year and have been reading how Ubuntu nowdays is awful but it was a great distro a few years ago.
Anyway, my opinion on Ubuntu has no weight since all I have used is Arch based distros
Ubuntu was my very first distro and I used it for a year. Maybe it was harsh to say that it sucked ass. When they pushed snaps on me, I started using them and towards the end, my computer got very slow. I’m now on arch btw
Arch is awesome. I use Arch on my laptop. I’ve been thinking about changing my Pop desktop to Arch, but the GFX driver management for Pop is super convenient and I have steam all set up exactly as I want it. I don’t really want to go through all the set-up again.
Ubuntu and Gnome Desktop singlehandedly made me hate Linux in my teens
I love gnome!
I have used Linux since 1993 (Slackware, Suse and Debian) and Ubuntu since 2006. I consider switching back to Debian because I hate snap and other containers for Of-the-Line Software and while I can uninstall snap and install a De-Snapped Firefox directly from Mozilla I hate doing this Extra-Work.
Dudes, even the “newer faster” Firefox-Snap is still taking three times as long to start and uses twice as much memory and on my work computer, a Core2 Q9550 with 8GByte of memory, this is VERY noticable. Yes, the system is old but for work more than enough. My i7 is only for games and I don’t mix work and fun.
Oh, and then there is that old neighbour who is using a Pentium4 3Ghz 3GByte RAM, which is 32Bit only. He is like 80 years old and doesn’t want to buy a new computer and his old rig does everything he wants. Ubuntu simply doesn’t support it anymore. Supporting old computers is something Linux does outstanding (Windows 11 dropping two year old systems is fucking sick)
Hah. ‘95 ish here? I was like twelve the first time I fucked up a Red Hat distro.
I mean I was 12. Dad is a Unix admin……
“Don’t do that.”
“Why not?”
“Okay. Do that…. Find out. Yiu have the install media, right?”
(Does “that”…)
“wait… you actually did that?! We just got done installing it…”Edit to add: “newer and faster” in web browser terminology usually means “bloated and resource intensive”- like how they now all open up multiple processes to load and run faster. (iirc there’s a way to turn that off in Firefox.)
I beat that. When I first installed a BSD in 1988 - I was 16 and stupid - I thought I would copy files like on Amiga or MSDOS by “copy filename c:” and did cp filename /dev/sda.
You only do that ONCE.
My dad was a genius. He helped me build my first pc out of spare parts from his computer-parts-rack.
It was a pentium 486. He taught me enough that I could recover… and then helped when I asked for it, but gave me space to fuck up on my own. Because you will fuck up.
But it’s okay, cuz you have the install media and everything “important” backed up.
I hate to say it to you guys but Linux Mint is really just about the desktop and their initial setup of Ubuntu.
I personally care about unique and usable distributions:
- Ubuntu (Really excellent foundation for a stable Desktop)
- Debian (Rock solid but can be dated for Desktop)
There are unique distributions but not usable for doing work like programming full time and other things:
- Arch Linux (I personally not comfortable updating this distro)
- Gentoo (I am not high to actually use this distro)
Well, Mint also corrects some of Ubuntu’s mistakes. It doesn’t force feed you Snap, for instance.
sure but for a beginner, those two pros are essential
We need a yellow evil Ubuntu and a purple evil Green Ubuntu to complete the set
… and Chrome could be Bowser … the terrible monster browser that plagues all of them but is linked to everyone
funny how when i was younger i thought bowser’s name was browser
There’s a webcomic based on anthromorphic (the word for making something human like from something else) web browsers
That’s Merryweatherey, IE-Chan and her friends can be found here
Well, we have a Pink Ubuntu (Hannah Montana Linux), a Red/Black Ubuntu (Satanic Edition), a Salmon Pink Ubuntu (Uwuntu), a White/Gray Ubuntu (Elementary OS), a Blue Ubuntu (Zorin OS), a Yellow/Black Ubuntu (Linux Lite) and an Teal Ubuntu (POP! OS). And I think that KDE Neon could be Purple Ubuntu, but I’m not sure.
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