I started using AMD cuz it was the “more bang for your buck” option and because of my cheapness I have always had a great experience with Linux, excluding wifi breaking every few months.
What’s your Wi-Fi card?
Leave my wife’s icard out of your goddamn mouth
I went with AMD because I got fed up with nVidia, similarly like OP did or at least guy in the screen shot. Never looked back. Sure, AMD requires binary blob to initialize card, but it just works and zero issues since then. Upgrade hardware, just transfer drive to a new machine and voila you are ready to go.
I was on a GTX1080 for a long time. Nothing absolutely dealbreaking, but lots of small naggling issues that took lots of annoying troubleshooting to fix. Plus, abysmal DX12 performance (which is a limitation of the cards Pascal architecture as far as I know, not everyone experiences it but it’s common enough).
Switched to an RX 7600XT and wow. Night and day. Zero configuration, zero weird issues, games perform fantastic at high settings (CP2077 at 1440p/High settings across the board is a pretty stable 80+ FPS, compared to 50fps at low and medium and 1080p with the old card, even on Windows). Complete gamechanger.
Same experience I had. nVidia is not a complete deal-breaker but people just don’t realize how many small nagging issues owning nVidia card entails. Switching to AMD was an eye-opening event for me. Then I realized how often I got annoyed by old card.
For how long? When you fly near the sun you will be burned
4-5 years i think since i switched to linux, no problems specific to gpu AFAIK (on X11), even tried some crypto mining and CUDA stuff, what didn’t work was wayland when i tested 1-2 yrs ago just to see what the hype was about, it was unusable but i’m not in a hurry to switch since i use LXQt… GPU is a GTX1060 3gb.
It’s important to point out that AMD isn’t perfect either (I don’t know about Intel), since it requires you to install proprietary firmware. But it’s obviously a huge improvement, since it doesn’t require proprietary drivers. If we forced Nvidia to do what AMD does, we would be in a much better position. So if you care about freedom, Nvidia is the last company you should choose.
If you are that concerned about firmware modern hardware is not your friend. Everything from your CPU to WiFi to integrated graphics requires proprietary software
I mean, that doesn’t really have to do with modern hardware. CPU’s need a blob in the bios since like forever. Also you don’t need any proprietary firmware on the os for a cpu
Fair enough I suppose. I just am pointing out that the low level hardware is not free and is pretty much a black box.
Things are changing fast. Nvidia has their own “open source drivers” that are almost identical to the proprietary ones and the NVK project has open source drivers that might outperform the proprietary drivers in most games.
Now the only reason you might install the property drivers by the end of this year is cuda and potentially open CL.I think they’re protective of their drivers because about the only thing separating their rt cards from their quatro cards are their drivers and software locked features. Quartos probably get put in more Linux systems than any other type of system.
Open source driver is maintained by the community and spend a long time just to get over the man-made barrier posted by nvidia.
If you think locking down hardware is a practice against the spirit of open source, don’t throw money at them.
So, it works don’t it. Your literally alienating anyone who just switched to Linux and is trying out open source software for that?
Nvidia is the best graphics card you can get on Windows and your saying instead of keeping your hardware longer, throw it out and spend almost 1k on a new graphics card? If you didn’t pay attention to the state of Linux drivers before you decided to flip Microsoft the bird your saying “too bad go back to windows or get a real graphics card”?
That’s a shitty take and if I’d listened to people like you without testing the waters myself I’d have never left windows because I happen to use my graphics cards for at least five years. In that time period I’d probably have forgotten why I wanted to switch in the first place.
What part of “dont throw money at them” align with “throw it out and spend almost 1k on a new graphics card”?
I am asking people not to buy nvidia card because of their misalignment with the open source sprit, not saying people should throw away their card nor stop switching to linux.
I am sorry but to me it feels like you just make up a point in your head, and starts attacking it as if it is my idea.
I personally do use a Nvidia GPU on my linux desktop, because it comes with the desktop when I brought it second hand. The GPU caused me problem but they are mostly fixable, since I am on a popular distro. But I would never buy any more nvidia hardware for my PC, because of their disrespect for open source.
I hope this clears things up for you.
What ever makes you feel better. The attitude towards Nvidia is toxic considering some people need it for work and other people just don’t have the choice to switch.
The Nvidia open source drivers are provided by Nvidia and the nvk project is built referencing that code. Nvidia itself has helped in their weird way by providing stuff like headers for the 3D acceleration and compute hardware to giving nouveau access to the GSP firmware blobs. These new drivers would be near impossible without a little help from Nvidia.
It’s really hard to ask a company that makes a shitload on quatro cards to just give up the source code when pretty much the only difference between quartos and rt cards comes down to software locks and slightly higher quality silicon.
The attitude towards Nvidia is toxic considering some people need it for work and other people just don’t have the choice to switch.
Have you ever considered that we are in this mess, because of people like you? Nvidia is abusing their users and instead of admitting that, you choose to defend them and make up excuses for them. Think about what you are doing. As we speak there is somebody else somewhere making the same excuses for Microsoft, Apple, Google or any other shitty company. Nobody wants to prevent those companies from making money, we just want them to do it in an ethical way. If not, they can fuck off.
I didn’t make excuses for them, I’m not defending them. I’m just telling you guys to stop attacking people just because of the choices they made in the past. We should celebrate Linux becoming more inclusive and easier to use not scream at other people for making a decision weather it was informed or not.
Someone has a good experience five other people who never owned an Nvidia cards or is using a shit laptop chime in with a smug attitude calling them an idiot because they own a card that potentially runs like shit on Linux. Just let people enjoy their stuff, help them out if idk… They ask you what works best with Linux or maybe… asks for your damn opinion.
This is the toxicity I’m talking about, the attitude that people bitch and moan about everytime someone brings up the Linux community. I try to be helpful and friendly to newcomers but straight up telling people they should feel bad for making a choice doesn’t fix anything or making negative remarks on something someone is excited about.
Nvidia is trying to make more of their driver open source, the very thing you guys get a hard on about when you complain about it. It’s for the same reason AMD is open source(free labor and vulnerability patches) but still good because better experience.
And guess what, I own an amd cpu and even I can’t ignore them artificially moving the price of their new cups and gpus up the price stack while neglecting to release cheaper more obtainable parts like they used to. It’s almost like they’re all greedy companies and your stiffie for AMD cards are unwarranted.
Get fucking real, instead of getting bent you should shop for hardware like you’d shop for a toaster oven the features you want, the best value, for the cheapest price.
Have fun with your lil circle jerk I’m out.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be impatiently & excitedly waiting for the open source Nvidia drivers get good enough for me to switch. I do afteral have at least 4 more years of life in my card.😜
the trick is to only use old cards, so the driver “improvements” don’t really affect them. works for any OS and manufacturer.
I haven’t had any serious problems on PopOS but I’ve still experienced the shittiness that is NVIDIA on Linux. Starfield was broken for months due to a graphics driver bug, then when it was finally fixed, that driver version broke Cyberpunk… Fucking hell NVIDIA.
There was a period, however brief, about, oh, 13 or so years ago where the recommendation was to avoid AMD entirely and go Intel and NVIDIA. Guess when I bought the parts for my PC?
My system before that was entirely AMD / ATI, but then, that was never a Linux machine. Nonetheless, the fashion when I built that was to avoid Intel and NVIDIA.
Literally the only real problem I’ve had on Linux with my ancient setup is the fact that one time two or three years back, a kernel and the legacy NVIDIA driver didn’t play nice and I had to stick with an older kernel for a while.
Now my problem is that my NVIDIA card is so old that Debian stable doesn’t support it any more and so neither do any distros descended from it. The OEM driver from NVIDIA themselves is a pain to install by comparison to the old .deb method, but compared to what I hear about other NVIDIA users, I’m a living miracle.
It might also help that I haven’t played anything more modern than Minecraft, but I have no trouble with YouTube and streaming sites that I’ve noticed, nor with any of the old games.
You can guarantee that by the time I get it together enough to buy a new system with AMD processor and graphics, that will mark the turning point when something happens to cause everyone to swing back the other way again, at least for graphics.
Honestly you should be able to pickup a old GPU on eBay for not that much.
Or for that matter, you could pickup a entire workstation that will have better performance.
There is 0 doubt that Nvidia has staggered a lot of progress in the Linux on desktop scene, however half of what this guy is describing is pure misunderstanding and lack of knowledge
I mean… If after whole day of troubleshooting and googling it didnt help to fix the problem on 2 distributions, then I don’t think the problem is with them. I had my fair share of nvidia shenanigans with nvidia over the years. When I couldn’t fix it or didnt didn’t want to deal with it I just switched distro until it worked.
Is it though?
That cursor in the center of the screenshot is really annoying
I recently bought a 7800 XT for the same reason, NVIDIA drivers giving me trouble in games and generally making it harder to maintain my system. Unfortunately I ran headfirst into the 6.6 reset bug that made general usage an absolute nightmare.
Open source drivers are still miles ahead of NVIDIA’s binary blob if only because I could shift to 6.7 when it released to fix it, but I guess GPU drivers are always going to be GPU drivers.
Unless you have an AMD or Intel GPU
I’ve had nothing but Nvidia cards ever since I’ve owned my own PC 24 years ago. Always used Linux. Mostly Ubuntu. NEVER had any problems.
I’m glad it works for you but the rest of us hate Nvidia
