My manager talked me into buying Diablo IV since I was into DnD.
I don’t know why people play games that require grinding when there are so many better options.
Diablo is cancer tbh. Mindless grinding, zero skill. The only challenge is creating a nice build but that requires grinding and anyone can copy it from a YouTuber and learn to use it in a few minutes.
Many genres can be called trash for different reasons, lol. I hate rhytm\reaction games, from dancing and playing instruments to fromsoft titles. It’s just I’m not build to enjoy them. But I love Diablo and would try to explain why.
Besides art direction of old Bliz and Matt Uleman’s OST, I like these series for… them being a task in optimization. Some games like building and management simulators are straightforward about it, but there it only shows in the endgame of diabloids. You are to think of theoretical ways of bettering your build, but also inventing the best way to farm X things in the least time possible to make it. I haven’t topped the ladder too many times for looking up others’ builds and copying them steals half of enjoyment from experimenting with it. It touches the same buttons in me as rewriting code for better performance does, and the only downside is me, a meatbag, executing it line by line, that you called mindless for a reason. I just reiterate through my idea before I see the predicted outcome.
That sort of enjoyment also surfaces in other games, like old shooters and RPGs, where I find ways to abuse the system and benefit from it. It’s a casual version of what speedrunners are into. Finding the best\fastest way to do X, but only for you to test and observe.
God of War, Dark Souls, Elden, The Witcher… All of these games have a system to optimiza your character without the need to grind for hours non-stop. Armored Core will also have a complex build system for the mechas.
The problem with Diablo for me is that it is just that, just building a character that hits hard. If you have a good build, everything is waaay too easy unless you are going into dungeons 20 levels above yours. And even then, it doesn’t feel rewarding because killing the enemies isn’t hard, it just takes too long. Like, it was taking me 10 seconds to kill a basic minion, and even that felt better than going into a dungeon and obliterating everything.
Maybe I could enjoy building a character if I didn’t need to spend hours and hours grinding to level up and to get the right items with the right affixes. The grinding is just a torture, I feel I’m wasting my time.
As I feel my time wasted playing souls-likes :)
Yeha, it’s fine. Everyone is allowed to have preferences. Why do you feel games like God of War are a waste of time?
Honestly, I’m shit at clicking right buttons at the right time, so I’m biased :)
But other than that, I don’t feel like I’m needed there. My inputs doesn’t change the flow of the kino that much, they are either correct or incorrect, and I’m either allowing it to continue or being a boulder stopping it from going on. GoW, another GoW, Uncharted and now TLoU for me are benchmarks of gfx and user experience possible on next gen consoles, but they aren’t as interactive as old rpgs and sandboxes I am a fan of. And they are gated behind my inability to react when timings are tight. I dropped some games because it wasn’t fun or wasn’t fair. You can google car chases in Yakuza games – and see many people dropping the game because this sequence was unbearable.
For I don’t really hate this mechanic in games, I only really enjoy it when I know it’d follow my input. As I love some heat actions in Yakuza series – after pressing Y with a weapon to start the animation, you know then you are to mash B to bash your enemy’s head against the obstacle repeatedly, and that feels like an organic response to what I press.
I’m fucking drunk rn but I hope I satisfied your curiosity with that wall of text.
Yeha, those games are kinda like a choreography, you’re not totally free to do whatever you want. You’re very restricted in what you can do and usually you have 1 or 2 options when you need to react.
Based on your input, you should give Breath of the Wild a try. It’s a game in which creativity is the only limit. I didn’t enjoy it that much because the combat is too easy, but then I saw what people can do when they get creative. It’s really insane. I completed the game playing like a noob, never expected those things to be remotely possible, because nobody tells you what to do. Nobody tells you “here’s how you do this insane combo”. People just piece the mechanics together. I guess that’s the beauty of Nintendo in general
Lol, that was actually pretty coherent.
Like playing game, grinding isn’t that bad if you don’t like the base of the game grinding is going to look like a pain.
I enjoy Diablo. What are some better alternatives? Diablo 4 is my first rpg
I highly recommend Last Epoch!
Grim dawn is worth checking out.
This is me trying to finish Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.
I have fallen asleep multiple times playing that game. The stable music is perfect if you’re trying to drift off to sleep. Something about that flute…
Yea there seems to be so much to do that I spend all my time wondering what to do next, only to find that its not that fun and then spending more time traveling to somewhere else
I’m having a lot less fun with totk than I did with botw 😞. It’s like combination of too many quests, too many caves and being forced to build stuff all the time. I just want to climb mountains, glide, find cool weapons and do shrines. I also hate not having the shrine radar like in botw. I feel like I’m roaming blindly and getting 1 shot by enemies all the time
You can get the shrine radar in TotK
Continue with Robbie’s questline. You get the shrine sensor and more. I loved the purah pad upgrades in totk.
I actually do have a set list of stuff that I want to do before beating the game, and getting all the Shrines is on that list. That’s partially why it’s taking so long.
I feel like my steam library is just an ode to all the game streams I’ve watched.
This hits hard
I fired up Dragon Age: Origins today to scratch the itch (I swore I had it somewhere but couldn’t find it) and in a blink of an eye I had already played for four hours straight
And that was enough for me lol I got shit to do and the gaming experience feels different these days. Still enjoyable, though, and god what a throwback
I am replaying Dragon Age: Origins right now also! Same experience for me. I’m trying to watch all dialogue scenes also and let them play out without skipping.
I turn around and a few hours has passed without me even knowing…
Damn. I loved that game so much. I miss old BioWare RPGs.
Can we have antiwork back
I feel you, fellow player. That, plus kids…
That’s why I’m so glad to WFH, it saves both time and energy.
I am still too tired after a day of WFH
Me too…but at least now I sleep a bit more because I don’t have to commute between home and office…
True, I run both PC and mac all weekdays, some times I game and work simultaneously lol
Finally get home from work and get a chance to play Zelda TotK! —Start falling asleep while playing…
Then try to figure out wtf I was doing the next time I start up the game
Finally successful enough to buy systems, buy every system, never play anything.
Im on lunch with my deck sitting next to me in it’s bag. I just don’t have the energy anymore after work. Hell part of it is every time I get into a game I have to stop to let my dogs out or in and then that steals enjoyment as now I’m watching and waiting for them instead of being immersed. It sucks.
watching gaming streams is a good solution
I’m like this with League. I can’t stand playing sometimes but I still enjoy watching
I relate to this too much … I’ll play through my library eventually
Right??
Lol no
Yeha sure… Why not.
Getting old with kids you’ll start to feel this. You just want to disconnect from the world after a certain point. It sucks because you WANT to play; you just… don’t want to lol.
A Steam Deck mostly fixes that issue, but not always. Assuming that a heck ton of pictures of dads in r/steamdeck went in.
I also played new games more likely because of the Steam Deck.
Ouch
Y’all are allowed to only do things you enjoy. You know that right? …right?
Want to play game, to tired to play
See the problem?
There are games that are suited for being tired and there are games that are not. It’s entirely up to you which one you choose to play
If you’re tried there isn’t any game to play while being tried. Play exhausted isn’t fun or good way to play
Spotted the trust fund baby.
