Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?

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    5 months ago

    I had similar requirements. I switched to Baikal, which has been happily running in a docker container ever since.

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    5 months ago

    Cloudron is kind of a freemium product. They offer a few apps (two ?) for free to use. For more apps you need to pay. Their back-end does have a view-source-but-no-edit “open source” license last time I checked. Bu if you want to keep things easy, go for it.

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    5 months ago

    I just want an app to backup all the photos from my phone automatically. I use NextCloud for that currently and it works well. But, it’s kinda heavy for what I want/need.

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    5 months ago

    I second that. I’ve been using it for a couple of years, syncing calendars and address book with both my PC and my Android smartphone (using DavX) and never had any problems.

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    5 months ago

    There is no difference between installing software on a VM and on “bare metal”. The OS takes care of the hardware stuff.

    I installed it according to their manual on their website (https://radicale.org/v3.html) which is imo pretty easy. The TLDR is that you first install python3 and its package manager pipx, then you install radicale using pipx and finally you run it as a systemd service. You can just copy their service template. The issue comes when you need to run multiple web services though. Radicale wants to be on the website root (website.com/ instead of website.com/some/path/blablabla/ ) which is not as trivial to set up as the previous steps. They have a template for nginx and apache but you need to kinda know the very basics of one of these to set it up.

    Also on debian there is a package so you could technically just apt install radicale and then systemctl enable radicale if you want to avoid creating a service and installing python.

    Obviously you need to create a basic config either way according to their manual. At least for password authentification.

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      5 months ago

      OK, so seems like best way to install Radicals is on my Debian VM using apt. I wonder if anyone has compared Baikal to Radicale …

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        5 months ago

        I haven’t tried Baikal but it seems to have (from the screenshots) just a bit more features. Radicale is merely the calendar+contacts+tasks server. You can login through the web UI to create calendars and delete them. They are then managed by a calendar/contact/task app like thunderbird. Baikal seems to have settings and a dashboard in the web UI which Radicale lacks.

        Both seem to have an unofficial docker container if you’re into that.

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          5 months ago

          Well, I was looking fo r the docker container but as my VM is Debian, I’ll go down the apt route which is official and maintained.

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    5 months ago

    I currently rent a VM running nextcloud for family use. It currently shows its age with all the nescessary tinkering to keep it current. (also have to use the hosters db which is … difficult)

    I’m thinking along the same lines…

    a smallffpc at home, dyn to my home ip, wireguard as a vpn into my home, The server runs: radicale caldav carddav, ksmbd family photos.

    my main problem: this needs to work on ios and android and linux and windows, reliably, which it currently does not in my test setup.

    currently lacking a solution for recipe sharing and shopping list sharing. Maybe setting up nextcloud on my own server is less of a hassle_…

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      5 months ago

      Home Assistant can do shared lists and (I’ve not used them) but has some recipe add-ons. There are apps for android and iOS. It can also take care of managing the dynamic IP. Then if you want to explore home automation in future you’re ready to go.