From his responses you can see reddit will continue their path. and if you think about it, everything is going well for them.
the probability that a critical mass of users will leave is still quite low. they will get rid of a lot of moderators that don’t fall in line. what is left will be a community that won’t mind the direction reddit is going.
reddit will turn boring, but the shareholders won’t care. as long as they manage to keep enough users after the api change the site will recover.
the only positive thing here is that a lot of dedicated people may join other platforms and start building new communities.
That’s what I expected as well. My guess is that it’s mostly somewhat tech savvy people that care about the changes. The more casual users will probably keep using reddit. Basically the lifecycle of most social media tbh
Basically the lifecycle of most social media tbh
Enshittification!
I’ve seen this word so many times today yet never before
I would venture a guess the more casual user’s window into this is only the handful of posts on Reddit that bubble to the top of r/all of third party apps shutting down. If they are uses of those apps, they probably scroll right on by and are none the wiser about the larger implications of all of this. And why should they care? If it doesn’t directly affect the way they use the platform, they will never even feel the impact of this.
Yeah. It’s like a toxic workplace. The old dogs might leave but those who hate change or new guys who don’t know how it used to be will stay
Yeah, looking at the responses this is exactly what they want.
Hilariously, it appears he’s copying from a list of precanned responses. It’s been fun reddit.
Tbh
HOW THE FUCK DID I OVERESTIMATE SPEZ
The fucking bar was on the ground and he didn’t pass it what the hell
You didn’t expect him to have a shovel.
Lmao
Probably the thing that disgusts me the most in all this is how spez has been constantly trying to drag Christian Selig’s name through the mud when it’s crystal clear that he (spez) is the problem.
Love to see the downvotes; wonder if he’ll beat out EA’s legendary disaster.
Feel like this would be the one to do it if any of them beat it. So out of touch and slimy
I am actually amazed he answered it. Massive ego and a fucking idiot.
#1 sin to corporate America is recording ur conversations lol, dude is pissed there’s audio
Yeah how DARE he look out for his rights and protect himself by knowing what he’s legally allowed to do! Don’t you know, this is America where corporate interests trump individual rights?
Oh wait, you’re from Canada? Shit.
(Just kidding, in Canada, corps fuck us just as hard, if not harder)
Anything that ensures accountability, especially personal accountability is looked at negatively. Its not an american thing uniquely. But it is embraced, especially in the last 20 years by companies. Its why general support is so poor, especially technical support.
This really makes me want Reddit to sink fast. Disgusting behavior.
I understand that Reddit needs to monetise. It’s not a link aggregate site anymore, hosting video/image files is expensive, Reddit operates at a loss and the 3p users cost them even more. They have reason to be dismayed that they operate at a loss while 3p apps using their API do not.
And I understand their concern with adult content. They can’t control if 3p apps will display it with or without checks, but Reddit hosts it; limiting it on 3p apps is probably the better choice to them than removing it from their site entirely. After all, they’re operating at a loss; they can’t afford the fines and fees. Sexual content is heavily legislated.
But goddamn. Limited negotiation with devs, adversarial communication (to the point of outright animosity), frankly absurd timeframe, the use of accessibility as negotiation for the blackout… there’s no good faith anymore.
Reddit is user-generated. The users are the content, their engagement is Reddit’s product. Users that don’t want to engage with their platform give them less sellable product. The users that engage the most (commenting, contributing, moderating) are the minority, and also the ones most likely to use 3p tools.
Reddit has good grounds for wanting to monetise. There are good reasons for bringing devs to the plate about how to do that. Devs were readily agreeing to covering their costs in calls, and expecting to negotiate what the revenue margin should be. Mutually equitable arrangement.
But this was handled so fucking badly, communicated so fucking badly (by one of the devs too tbh), that an equitable arrangement cannot possibly be reached anymore. Nobody wants to bargain in good faith anymore.
Now all the users want Reddit to cancel all the changes, publicly apologise, and remain operating a loss. Now Reddit wants devs to shut up and pay up, and blame them for the situation they’re in.
Now everybody loses, because devs close apps, high-activity users contribute less or outright leave, and Reddit decays down into a pit of low-interaction lurkers picking over ad-bleached bones, until it’s considered so unprofitable and unrecoverable that it is shut down entirely.
so far the AMA has been up for about 20 minutes, and he’s answered 3 questions. heavily downvoted as expected.
And he’s already started with the personal attacks against Christian Selig, the Apollo author. Already. Barely 10 minutes into the AMA and he’s already personally attacking someone. What a piece of shit.
spez has never struck me as particularly capable of reading the moment, so i’m hardly surprised by that.
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I can’t even find the questions that he’s answered
you’re almost certainly going to have to browse by his profile just to see, given how nuclear the reaction against him is.
Archives to some of his “answers”
This is going as well as expected lol
Looks like spez is done with the AMA. His responses constitute 0.07% of comments in the thread.
I only saw one sarcastic answer. Did he actually say anything of substance?
Few political not answers, some f-you answers, personal attack to Christian.
I would say that PR was disastrous, people rage that he wasn’t prepared for obvious questions and 0 informational value of this AMA.
that’s a moment
Lmao from spez’s comments it would seem that iamthatis is well and truly off the christmas card list
Spez is absolutely malding over him having the receipts. There’s no other explanation, he’s just pissed he can’t get away with plausible deniability.
Effective July 1, 2023, the rate for apps that require higher usage limits is $0.24 per 1K API calls (less than $1.00 per user / month for a typical Reddit third-party app).
Effectively forcing app devs to become middle-men collecting on reddit’s behalf. Mob boss behavior. ’
I guess it “looks better”, to cut someone off at the knees before murdering them outright.
It’s not murder if food is suddenly eleventy bazillion dollars and you starve to death, unless you’re irish.
They really love pulling the “stop hitting yourself!” thing that bullies do don’t they.
My only thought about this is that I wish people would stop using awards on comments lol. You’re giving the site money! Feel like I gotta spray users with a water bottle like no, no, stop that
I mean, I have a stockpile of 8000 “free” coins to get rid of before I nuke my account. Might as well go towards depriving reddit of ad revenue.
I hope spez isn’t a cat. Mine flees when she sees me pick up the water bottle and is back up to no good as soon as I turn around.
like spez, cats are little assholes, but unlike spez, we still love them
Using up free coins doesn’t give them any more money though, right? I just checked and I apparently have 550 coins to “spend”.
Don’t mind me, I’m just using up my stockpile of randomly earned coins. I won’t be paying Reddit anything.
He’s said four things in response to questions - every one of which is a deflecting non-answer and one of which is a personal attack. Lol. What a surprise
And nothing of value to the Reddit community was gained.
I’m liking it here
Same. This reminds me of old school (10+ years ago reddit). Where you could just find something cool and jump in the comments and talk about it. It wasn’t an argument fest or people plugging their shit or an army of bots it was just people talking about something they all happened to see and like.
So the Now for Reddit creator says he’s been flat-out ignored for 3 months and he’s panicking, he doesn’t want to lose 10 years of work. Spez replies "Apologies for the delay. We are responding now.
If others have apps they would like to be considered for the paid API tier, please reach out here and select “This is a partnership request.”
The sheer incompetence of this man, holy shit. Now for Reddit is the app I have used for years, no way will I use the awful official app over that, ever.
That one rubbed me the wrong way too. On one hand they’re trying to convince everyone that their announcements gave devs plenty of time to adapt, but on the other they’re ignoring the devs that want to cooperate. There’s no way that response backlog is 3 months long.
I wonder what he was expecting. Honestly surprised it wasn’t heavily curated. Deleted my account but wish I saved it to ask him when he was going to resign.
Edit: Haha wow. He expectantly is getting hammered. I like to think he was living in some bubble and now his ego is getting a reality check.
This is what I’ve been thinking too cause why else would be think this ama is a good idea? He’s living in a fantasy.
When you accidentally post in /r/ama instead of /r/AmItheAsshole …
“AITA for being upset that someone recorded a phone call?”
From what I read here, I am already fed up with it. I prefer reading a book than getting angry at this greedy unfriendly person.
