Can’t really make apps for a site that doesn’t have an API. They did announce recently that Kbin’s API is nearly done, so soon there’ll be a flood of Kbin apps as well, and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps too
and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps
Very much doubt. I’m sure many will but not all. The API isn’t identical so they’d have to commit to maintaining both.
Yeah I suppose not all of them will want to commit to supporting Kbin, but some definitely will. Honestly though, so long as it’s possible to search for and subscribe to Kbin magazines from Lemmy, that’s all I really care about.
If nothing else, the Sync developer said he’d do it.
Memmy dev said they plan to as well but “not within this year” if I recall correctly.
Cool. Memmy is the best, but what is the purpose of a native kbin integration if it’s already federated? Are we able to view and not post or comment?
nice, that’s the one I’ve been hoping for the most!
Came here to say that… Take your upvote, good sir…
It would be great if someone created a fediverse browser native app. Log into all the platforms and add a translation layer to create a truly unique experience. Maybe it would only make sense if you could authenticate one account on all the activitypub platforms? I understand the amount of technical hurdles and maintenance to do so. I suppose I find the thought of experiencing them combined intriguing. If someone created A single app experience, in a intuitive way, I’d definitely give it a try. I can see lemmy posts on mastidon. Would be kind of cool if it could handle that and display those posts using a lemmy ui. But making it seamless.
Based on this: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients/src/branch/main/README.md Fedilab, once it supports Lemmy and Kbin
This is why Lemmy’s tangential features, such as being able to post from Mastodon accounts, or being able to post to that video service, are also not going to happen any time soon. It’s just a lot of moving pieces, for functionality that’s more interesting than useful.
I don’t, it’s not that much more work as the basics of it won’t change that much over time and the functionality will be near identical. We might not get newer features that are eventually added though.
I would expect that 99% bits of your app that talk to the API can be the same for both, you just need to maintain slightly different code for interacting with each actual API.
In fact scrolling further through the comments I see that not only is this how @hariette is handling it for Artemis but she’s also looking at making the talking to both APIs bit of the code available to other devs.
@Nitrate55 I can’t wait to be able to use Kbin on the go, I’m really gonna have nothing be done at that point
You can install the kbin interface as a PWA on mobile, and it works pretty well. There are some kinks for sure, but it’s 100% usable and better than lemmy.
I do most of my kbin browsing on my phone using good old firefox.
It isn’t perfect, but definitely works well enough until a dedicated mobile app comes out.
@snooggums Yeah I sometimes use the browser on my phone to use Kbin but it would be good to have a fully function App in the near future.
Firefox and toggle to desktop site works well for me.
Kbinites unite!!
before the whole reddit clusterfuck and blackout started I created both kbin and lemmy accounts. One of those is just gathering dust
Yeah, I have a kbin account as well, but I prefer Lemmy so far, since it actually has a data API and I prefer the web interface over that of kbin (and now we have old.lemmy.world!)
I am test driving Artemis for kbin, but Hariette and her team have an uphill battle until kbin comes up with an API, so development has been slow. Not their fault, of course.
API is almost done! Been using an internal build of the app that uses Artemis’ kbin instance with those changes. And oh god is so much better 👌
So we’re nearing a point where apps for kbin will start popping up ✨
That’s great news!
The more options the better. For now Lemmy is good and the apps are progressing at an awesome pace, honestly didn’t expect that.
The ace in the hole that Lemmy and kbin have is that it doesn’t matter which one you prefer because they can talk to each other. Can’t say the same about Squabbles.
Oh yeah, until someone decides to pull a beehaw and defederate, that’s why I have a kbin account too, but haven’t had the need to use it that much.
I just don’t care for kbin’s interface. It definitely seems to be a love it or hate it type of thing. I like that Lemmy is trying to be more of a Reddit replacement, while kbin fans seem to like that it doesn’t feel like one.
BeeHaw gives me a toxic positivity vibe, so losing them from lemmy.world isn’t a big deal. I’d argue that they should not federate with anyone, but I can’t tell them what to do.
Yeah, since Lemmy.world started to grow like a mf, I don’t miss beehaw very much tbh, it absolutely scratches that early reddit itch
TIL about old.lemmy.world, cool!
There’s also m.lemmy.world running Voyager (formerly wefwef).
Haha, that’s awesome! TIL
Same. I just don’t have a reason to use kbin. The interface is not my cup of tea and I don’t like the way they’ve handled communities or ‘mAgAzInEs’.
Yeah, also the fact that they have… microblogging or something? I have mastodon for that.
Why you letting your lemmy account gather dust?
If only kbin had an API…
I was thinking of making my first attempt at an android app a kbin app because of the lack of options, but their documentation (while done really well so far) isn’t fleshed out yet.
Lemmy’s Documentation is very confusing to me as someone still learning to program (does it get better when you are more experienced???), but it’s definitely a lot more fleshed out, so that’s why I’m attempting to make just another Lemmy client looool
Hi, currently three years into a job title that indicates I program for a living (it sounds more like I’m a manager). I do Python professionally and work on learning C. It… it kinds gets worse, if you go this far, but you’re more able to handle it.
12 years here, it gets better :)
Oh, it’s the artemis girl
I was introduced to remote debugging a few weeks ago. I had heard of it and it sounded neat, but it’s so much better than I could possibly have imagined.
Kbin should have prioritised their API rather than adding microblogging to a platform that didn’t need it.
The addition of microblogging is the main draw for me
I just want to be able to browse lemmy/kbin and mastodon with a single login
Isn’t that what the RIF dev is making?
Yes! He linked to the post over on tildes prior to shutting down RIF.
Wish he’d make it for lemmy
I agree. I enjoyed RIF for so many years. Paid for it too. I would gladly pay him again for a lemmy app.
Same here.
I heard Tildes discourages app development because they think apps go against the purpose of the site.
It’s on the internet, it exists to be modified. Tis the law.
With that said, if I heard that, I’d either do things low profile or I’d not do it at all, because at any point the devs can just intentionally ruin whatever you use to make your app work. And low profile isn’t an option, RiF’s dev will always have at least a couple hundred who will try whatever they make, day 1. In their shoes, I would contact the Tildes dev directly and ask where we stand, then go forward with blessing, or leave.
I tried Tildes out, but I am not very active on there. I don’t think it is what I was looking for when leaving Reddit.
Whoever ends up doing so should set up the interface so that Lemmy posts are blue and kbin posts green, that way Lemmy users can downvote us and call us poor.
You could hack that into most lemmy clients right now, with either a manual kbin list or one automatically populated by querying the instances api directly.
I recommend forking liftoff and calling it lMessage, l for liftoff or lemmy, and message because now you can message all those pesky kbin users that they should bin their kbin and join a real instance
There is nothing to do because kbin hasn’t released a working api yet
These things take time and once KBin releases its API, the mobile apps will start flowing.
I’m pretty excited for that and will give KBin a try once that happens.
The API is going through code review right now!
I still have absolutely no idea what the difference between lemmy, kbin and mastodon is.
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Kbin is more like Facebook in my opinion
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So they’re all entirely separate federated networks?
No, they use ActivityPub underneath, so you can go to kbin/mastodon communities/users/etc. from Lemmy and vice versa.
The catch here being that integration between them is somewhat limited. Mastodon displays Lemmy posts as Mastodon posts, with the communities being their own accounts. Not the best system. Lemmy can’t access Mastodon posts at all(AFAIK). Interaction between Lemmy and Kbin often also leaves out lots of information.
Oh cool, thanks.
Connect for Lemmy, connects them all
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect
Lenny’s API is really approachable and Kbins is still WIP
Is kbin not lemmy? I can subscribe to kbin communities through my Lemmy instance though?
They both use ActivityPub, which is why the content is shared. But they’re different software.
Yeah I left Kbin for this purpose.
Same
