In time-based pagination, the suggested fix to lots of data in a selected timespan is:
simply adding a limit to the amount of records returned (potentially via a query parameter) transparently solves it.
This means clients can’t see all the results, unless you add a way to view other pages of data, which is just pagination again. Or is the intended design that clients view either the first x results (the default) or view all results?
The problem with articles like OPs and others is that they don’t allow custom sorting, which is often a requirement, e.g. interfaces that present the data in a table, where column headers can be clicked to sort.
Regarding your first paragraph, this results limit is per page. To get the next page, you take your timestamp of the last item and use it in
from_time, or whatever you’ve called it. It’s still a pagination technique.Regarding custom sorting, some of the techniques in the article can do this, some of them can’t. Obviously timestamp based pagination can’t, however the ID-based pagination that I mentioned can.
Fairly lame article but yeah this is something lemmy used to get wrong. I haven’t paid attention to whether it still does.
They fixed this in version 0.19 pr #3872 (note that the cursor here is a way of hiding a post ID to continue from, as far as I can see).
Also, lame article? 😖
Not lame, I appreciated it and as a result will be implementing ID-based pagination, sometime.
Ah, thanks for linking that PR. The point made in the article is a good and helpful one, as can be seen by the way so many sites get it wrong, including Lemmy in the past. It’s just that it is pretty thin to make a whole article around. It would be a good thing to bring up in an optimization guide that covers more topics.
I would be interested to know if there is substantial cost to keeping cursors open for long periods, while the db is being updated. I think given those labels, it may be preferable to do a new select each time the user requests the next page. But I haven’t benchmarked that.
If you look at how Wikipedia pages through article histories, the labels are timestamps with 1 second resolution.
Here is another article about the same topic, part of the author’s book on SQL performance:
https://use-the-index-luke.com/sql/partial-results/fetch-next-page
Who uses “lame” in 2024? It was so pervasive during the Digg times.
lazily loading notifications
…What?
This whole article was sprung from a discussion of exactly that case, because users often simply don’t delete notifications. It’s very common for users to have years of undismissed notifications stacked up under the notification bell, and it’s not a good experience to load them all at once.
Ah, like smartphone/Windows notifications, not webpage popups? Yeah, always wonder how my dad doesn’t miss everything, despite always having 20+ notifications.
Yeah, or even the inbox in lemmy. It’s a surprisingly common thing.
Yes when they said notifications they meant notifications hehe
