• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Immagine if Chrome wasn’t just a rinky dink Safari emulator!

    Wow, can’t wait to not only have my data harvested by Apple but also Google!

    FFS, stop cumming for Chrome and start using Firefox!

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      3 months ago

      There’s no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn’t make financial sense to port it.

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          There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.

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          The rendering engine.

          Currently Firefox on iOS is “just” a skin around the iOS provided renderer.

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            I don’t give a mousefuck about the rendering engine. I want extensions

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              I want extensions

              Sounds like you do care about the rendering engine as that would basically give you a true mobile Firefox experience and access to all the extensions.

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            But they do have mobile arm builds already don’t they? Of course iOS is very different from Android but it’s not like they’d have to do complete port. And it targets the same architecture that’s in macs and they have builds for it obviously.

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      By the time the masses move it will be an enshittified fork of chrome.

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            Thanks. I know you’re not OP, but I’ll take this opportunity to answer anyway.

            privacy preserving attribution

            …is not as bad as many people think.

            The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:

            All websites on the internet—including ad networks!—are guests on our computers, and the content they provide are merely suggestions for a user agent to interpret and show us how it chooses.

            If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA shouldn’t exist. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.

            But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. For the API to be called, ads need to get to your browser first, and uBlock doesn’t allow them to get that far. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely benefit from PPA.

            As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.

            And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock 100% functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That feels not like enshittification to me, but a group trying its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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    In two years time Apple, and every other smartphone manufacturer on the EU market for that matter, will be forced to make the battery user replaceable and that one will most likely benefit everyone; unless Apple wants to release two versions of every iPhone to comply with EU regulations which they won’t.

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      3 months ago

      Just like with USB-C, which the EU regulated and now the iPad and IPhone have.

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      When they do come to it. I hope its the easily swappable like the ones in Nokia 3310. Otherwise its pointless imo.

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        AFAIK, the EU defines “user replaceable” as literally that; you open a hatch, pull the battery out and stick a new one in.

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          Unfortunately, they do not define it that way.

          And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.

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              Sure you can. Car manufacturers do it today.

              You will have to define “3 years” as well. It can’t be a blanket 3 calendar year thing, it would have to be X number of cycles which the average user would realistically hit with 3 years of usage. Not someone glued to their phone playing games all day that need to charge three times a day.

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            And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.

            I do not remember reading that, the only exception I remember is for devices that are intended to be used under water, which phones are definitely not

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      3 months ago

      Everyone will benefit, but have to imagine relatively few will buy tools to actually take advantage of it.

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      Hopefully they keep selling a phone with no user replaceable battery. Id rather have the weather proofing than a battery i need to swap out one time after owning the phone for over 4 years.

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        How many times has your phone needed the weather proofing in the last 4 years? Mine is 0, at least twice. On the flip side, I have needed a new battery 2 times.

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          Not a good argument. This is like saying why do we need airbags because I have never used it. We need to have both the features, with water proofing being more critical.

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          Ive needed the IP68 rating a handful of times. I have needed a new battery zero times on my 4 year old phone. If I need the battery replaced, Ill just take it to apple and have them swap it out.

          Its still at 70% usability, which still lasts me all day.

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            That’s the thing though, why is apple the only ones authorized to swap out your battery? That service isn’t free, and they’re massively overcharging you for it.

            It’s also not impossible to build a phone that is water resistant and has a swappable battery, but that’s besides the point. Personally I’d rather have a swappable battery.

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              Maintenance is never free, so im okay with a service fee every four years rather than buy new phones every time they get wet. Im not saying my particular view is right for everyone, but its what I want. I get why people want replaceable batteries. No problem with it. I just would rather not have them. So if there is an option for both models, one with, and one without that feature, this is a win for everyone. If not, and only one or the other is implemented, then its going to suck for whoever is in the party that got left out.

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                Aren’t you being purposefully obtuse by refusing to consider the idea of a battery swappable phone that is IP68 certified? Its almost certainly going to happen with the line of phones in Europe that will have swappable batteries and it’s not even that far into the future.

                I think this post is about change moving forward, not making sure our past decisions were sound.

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                  Im refusing to accept the idea because it doesn’t exist. Who manufactures one?

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          I’m all about replacable batteries but come on. Two times I was out and came back home soaking wet because of rain. Many more times I used my phone in the kitchen or bathroom while water was splashing with no stress, which I wasn’t brave enough to do with a non-resistant phones.

          That being said, I’d rather carry an extra battery or two like I used to than carry a power bank.

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            The soaking rain thing has happened to me with a not particularly water resistant phone and it was fine. The water ratings are more intended for direct splashes and full immersion.

            My opinion is that this is a comfort we can do without, especially given the ecology and consumer rights implications (not that a phone with a user replaceable battery is necessarily porous to water, plenty of phones meet both criteria)

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    The more they get regulated, the better their stuff becomes*. It’s wild that people are on the side of Apple for a lot of this stuff, most prominently probably with third party app stores supposedly “decreasing security”.

    Sent from my MacBook :^)

    * At least when it comes to consumer rights regulations. I’m still mad about China demanding they remove the option to accept AirDrop from everyone without a time limit on iPhones and Apple then implementing that restriction globally for whatever godforsaken reason.

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    2 months ago

    If you import iphone from EU does it have these features or is it determined by the region you are using the phone from?