At that stage they are not hiding that they are a ads and AI company anymore.
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As long as they keep supporting the framework for Firefox we’ll still get working forks like LibreWolf.
Hopefully Ladybird starts picking up more in the next few years…
What you gonna do? Go to Google? Mozilla is not allowed to make advertisements (even with the goal of privacy respecting ads), Mozilla is not allowed to get money from Google and Mozilla is not allowed to sell Firefox. These are some of the problems Mozilla is facing. I’m personally not entirely against ads, if its done right (respecting my privacy and not being annoying, also not trying to scam me).
People shit on Mozilla and Firefox, but there is no alternative. Forks off course are alternatives, but without Mozilla’s Firefox, there wouldn’t be forks. Google, Microsoft and Apple are way, waaay worse.
The fact that Mozilla is not as evil as Google (yet) is only so good, though. If they continue in this downward trajectory, they might eventually put out a browser worse than Chrome, and if that becomes the case… I guess so.
If Mozilla is hemorrhaging money, then maybe they should plug the $65 million in donations towards AI and venture capital firms. Maybe they should lower the CEO salary, which is what happens in general to CEO salaries when markets underperform… Instead of raising it by nearly $2 million.
Hear, hear!
there is no alternative
There will be. LadyBird and Servo. And I’m gonna ditch Firefox as soon, as they’ll become viable.
Which will be years from now, if ever. I mean, I hope for them as much as you do, but it doesn’t mean there is no problem right now.
The Ads position:
We’re growing the Mozilla Ads product team, passionate about display advertising in Mozilla products that is privacy-respecting and values-aligned. You will be one of the lead engineers that will craft, build, and be responsible for the core systems, both front-end and back-end, that support advertising in clients (Firefox, MDN, Pocket, Fakespot, etc). You and your team will be the domain guides when it comes to advertising, providing direction and shepherding to various product teams across Mozilla.
Yeaaaah fuck off Mozilla, we don’t want Ads.
They Slogan
Why Mozilla?
At Mozilla, we’re serving humanity—by maintaining a safe, open internet—while also helping the individual humans employed here to reach their personal and professional goals. […]
I guess that’s no longer the case then?
Stick your hand in your pocket and send them some money then.
I would advise withholding any donation to Mozilla until they allow you to fund Firefox development, rather than going in a pool that will probably end up in some random venture capital investment into an AI firm.
Or a cryptocurrency one.
Yeah, Mozilla invested in fucking cryptocurrency.
Well I consider stopping donating to them.
When you don’t have a business plan you choose ads.
The “I don’t care if you go broke, give me what I want” stance I’m seeing online seems short-sighted at best and narcissistic at worst.
As a general stance “People want me to give them free shit. I say gtfo.”, I understand you.
That’s just not proportional to Mozilla and Firefox. In 2022 they had a total revenue of $595 million¹. That allows them to hire 3305 software developers at a salary of $180.000. Google was responsible for 81% of that revenue¹. If you remove Google and their influence from the equation you’re left with $113 millon and Mozilla can then hire 628 software developers. I think that would be more than adequate to maintain a browser.
I’m sure those developers don’t need any material like, say, software, or a desk. Or other staff to write those paychecks and resolve disputes. Or give direction. Nor would the company need to host any downloads or other websites.
I’m pretty sure Mozilla becoming a cheap Google clone is not good long term
