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    4 months ago

    the idea of putting people before profit feels increasingly radical

    What. The. Fuck.

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        4 months ago

        Nah it’s not news that their ethos has been fading away for a long time now and that Mozilla just really isn’t what it used to be a decade ago.

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      This is the Mozilla Foundation. They’re legally a non-profit, so this isn’t supposed to mean that they’re reconsidering their stance. They can’t do that. It’s rather just them saying “shit’s hard, yo”.

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      $6.9 mil the last time they said. And that was in a year where CEO salary was (on average) cut across all for-profit companies, because even businesses react to market forces sometimes.

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        The CEO who got paid that much has quit. We don’t yet know what the salary of the new CEO is going to be.

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          And the blame for Mozilla’s lack of transparency rests entirely on Mozilla’s shoulders.

          If you know anything about Mozilla’s finances at all, you know that they always are one to two years out of date. So your response, which I’ve seen before, is ignorant at best, and really disingenuous at worst. I hope for the former.

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      That CEO is working for the Mozilla Corporation, these layoffs happened at the Mozilla Foundation. The latter is legally a non-profit, so it would be quite limited how much money they could accept from the Corporation anyways.

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    I feel bad for the people who were eliminated. The browser has been stagnating for a while now, maybe a smaller team can be more focused on making a better, more modern browser.

    The mobile browser is top notch. The desktop browser has been slowly catching up with the basic innovations of other browsers.

    They definitely need to find a new source of funding.

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      They need to stop bloating the web, so that browser development stops taking billion dollar budgets.

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        Pretty sure, Google is at the forefront of that endeavor. Apple has no interest in keeping up. And Mozilla needs to stay in the talks for whatever Google proposes to ensure the webstandard can be implemented by others.

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            Netscape. Specifically the homophobe guy that’s now leading the Chromium-based browser Brave.

            I’m being a jackass about it, because that was 28 years ago. You can’t say they should stop bloating the web and then bring up an example from before Google even existed.

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      They need another source of funding, maybe cutting salaries of the Cs would work for one.

      I don’t think this is them focussing back on the browser, especially looking at the job listings posted in another comment. It seems to me it’s just a focus on AI, probably in the hope of making money.

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    Damn, I definitely won’t stop donating, if they’re this short on money, but that was basically my understanding of what they do, primarily advocacy.

    Is MDN and the webstandards work also part of the Foundation? It certainly feels like it’d be more non-profit-y work. I guess, they do hold ownership of the Corporation, so they could also just tell the Corporation to deliver that.

    But yeah, I’d like some increased messaging of what other work they do, or how much advocacy they can continue to do. Obviously, that’s not an insane number of employees left either way…

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      I believe MDN and standards partcipation is part of the Corporation. The latter definitely, because implementation experience matters for that. The former also has its own monetisation, and has a lot of content contributed by the Open Web Docs foundation.