• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    well no shit. the problem is russias’s “peace plan” is “Ukraine no longer exists”

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      1 month ago

      Russia’s “Peace Plan” is to actually take over Ukraine, and then the Baltics, and then Poland, and then Germany and the rest of the Central Europe, and then France and the UK, and rest of Western Europe, and then they’ll take over the Atlantic Ocean and Iceland and Greenland, and then they’ll come and take over the United States, state by state starting from the East Coast going to the West Coast, and then Hawaii, and then Japan, and then they’ll autocoup themselves oblast by oblast starting with Vladivostok where they’ll be dug in for months trying to make roads that connect to the rest of Russia but then they’ll keep marching West and when they finally loop all the way back around to Lviv the whole West will be defeated and we’ll all be speaking Russian and saying Hail Putler and the brave Galician racists will be rolling in their graves saying I told you so.

      And that’s why at least 4 generations of Ukrainian men need to be eradicated for American interests in Eastern Europe.

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      What evidence do we have of that? A peace deal was already talked through, but fell through. It did not have any such provisions in it.

    • finderscult@lemmy.ml
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      No, Russias peace plan is the separatist nations get to exist, and Ukraine doesn’t get NATO bases so they can’t build up a second attack any time soon.

      Russia has been quite reasonable throughout.

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      The Russian oligarchs actually really wanted to chill and trade titanium through Ukraine. None of this NATO think tank narrative makes sense.

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      russias’s “peace plan” is “Ukraine no longer exists”

      No it isn’t. Eastern Ukraine and neutrality is still very far from the end of Ukraine and is still very reasonable deal to make for peace.

      Zelensky’s peace plan is still Russia to retreat from everywhere, including crimea, and then Ukraine can have “peace talks” about Russian reparations to Ukraine. This is not just unreasonable, it’s delusional. This kind of unbending attitude from the side that everybody knows is losing is no fucking bravery. It’s stupidity that prolongs a lost war for only Ukraine’s and Ukrainian people’s loss. All because Kiev and Zelensky are politically and narrative wise boxed themselves in for a war to the bitter end.

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        Emm, yes it is. Watch Putins’ interviews where he says Ukrainians is fake nation. Dude is mental and thinks he is savior of slavs. “Peace” is just giving Russia break which it desperately needs to resume invasion later.

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    Who gives a fuck about Ukrainians though, what does Jimmy Bob in Bumfuck Nebrahoma think?

    It’s the inalienable right of liberals to claim the high ground for their Nazi ass government to sacrifice foreign people for their stock market.