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    If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.

    If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.

    Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.

    They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.

    This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.

    Only a good King can stop enshittification.

    There are no good Kings in Google.

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      I know. Late stage capitalism is much more of a negative than a positive.

      But I did say slow enshitification. Slow =/= Stop.

      Enshitification:

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    Sorry, but I’ll pay for it when they stop spying on everything I do. And worse, is that they make it intentionally bad when you turn off suggestions.

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        Whoosh moment… but I see what you did there - and I for one, like it!:-P

        Though tbf, I must be insane, b/c I legit just watch the ads. Okay so not watch watch them, or listen either tbh, but let them play out I mean… I watch fewer than one YT video per day, most often per week even, or sometimes per month, so that is just easier for me than anything else, and it feels good to know that I am supporting the content creators that way, which iirc YT does at least a halfway decent job of? (or I could be misremembering that, but I thought like not the best yet not the worst either, more solidly in the middle, median-wise if not average?) Like, it is literally the least I can offer:-D.

        Unless I want to listen to music, in which case I just turn on blocking of the ads - I guess I am not all that perfect (or bat-shit insane - ain’t nobody got time for dat!):-P.

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          I just think I’m irritated with watching ads enough to pay to not need to. I also think I watch multiple YouTube videos nearly everyday, so I just consider it paying $0.05 to skip the ad automatically and still support the company and creators both.

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      90% of my usage is on Mobile and through my Roku TV which both use specific apps to view YouTube. That’s my problem.

      I can use revanced to change the app on my phone, or download another app like NewPipe and that would work for a bit. But the hoops I’m referring to are when the apps get banned and need to be updated to work again, AND the hoops I feel I’d need to go to for an ad blocker at the router level so my Roku TV won’t show ads through YouTube. (Though I should probably look into that anyway to get rid of ads on my TVs home screen).

      It just feels like a hassle to me, and I’m paying $8/mo as a student anyway so it’s pretty cheap too.

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        On your tv. Go to settings, apps, see all apps, android tv home, then uninstall updates. Go to Google play store, your username icon, settings and disable auto-update apps. It’ll remove the crap at the top.

        To remove specific things from the home screen, scroll down to the one you want to remove. Then hit the little circled minus button.
        You can also install custom launchers if you really wanted to.

        If you care, you can also “uninstall” uninstallable apps with adb. And there’s a program called adb app control(I think that’s the name) that’ll let you easily remove them. They also have an called adb tv: app manager on the playstore. You need to enable adb debugging. But the app tells you what to do. Just don’t uninstall anything you don’t recognise. There’ll be a lot of things that are really important.

        As a signing off gift, smarttube is like revamced but for your tv. Find their github, download it, put it on your tv, either woth a USB or I use an app called send files to tv.

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          Thanks for the guide, but these are exactly the type of hoops I was talking about needing to jump through. Still, if and when I get a Google smart TV maybe I’ll do this but I have a Roku.

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            Ah, yeah, I know nothing about Roku. Other than it’s highly customised android and can’t be used to install apks

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    Fuck google and the horse it rode in on. Never paying them a single red cent. They already make bank selling my data.

    Fuck em with a cactus.

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    I’m still annoyed at the removal of google play music. I want to just buy tracks or albums, instead of a subscription, and just own a flac/mp3/music file I can do anything with.

    I rip cds now, and feel 0 guilt for that even though its illegal here because quite frankly the artists are getting more money this way.

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    Let me just share a few FOSS apps that are arguably better than their official google counterparts.

    For YouTube: Libretube, NewPipe

    For YouTube Music: InnerTune, ViMusic

    And, not open source, but if you want to support the creators (and artists) you like, buy merch. YouTube doesn’t get a cut of the merch sales to my knowledge.

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    Enshittification is not a thing that will be slowed if only we just pay Google more. It’s a well-honed business strategy. Nobody in their right mind would stop their plans just because people start paying them more, voluntarily.

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    YouTube, removes downvote count, and implements shitty start up noise that I can’t disable, and raises price. Then wonders why I don’t want to pay for that shit.

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    ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I’ll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then

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      Not sure if you meant pihole or not, but if you did, I thought I’d just mention that a pihole doesn’t remove ads on YouTube due to the fact that the ads and the videos are served from the same server. You block the ads, you block the videos. Made me quite sad after I set my one up.

      Unless you didn’t mean pihole, in which case do enlighten me as to what a pinhole is :))

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        I meant pihole stupid autocorrect. That’s sad to hear… I wonder how ublock works cause yt never shows ads for me but videos work great

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          Yeah, I was super gutted when I found out. Apparently it did use to work in the past when they used to serve the ads from different servers, but not any more, unfortunately. It’s not completely pointless to install, though. It provides some great software out the box to monitor internet traffic on your network, and I’m pretty sure that in some cases it can speed up your internet by acting as a self-hosted DNS server.

          The reason UBlock works, is because it has direct access to the HTML, CSS and JavaScript sent to you. It can alter the web page directly. UBlock scans all the web pages you load, and automatically removes anything it recognizes as an ad. There’s a lot more to it than just that, and it’s a really clever tool, but essentially what it does is directly alter the code of the web page. Unfortunately, this isn’t really possible to do from another device on your network. I did look into somehow setting up a device which scans all incoming traffic like Ublock does, and then removes adverts similarly, but this isn’t really possible since HTTPS traffic is encrypted. Any attempt at removing the encryption would likely result in a heap of issues to using various services, and you’ll likely get constant warnings on your browser about a page being insecure e.t.c.