cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24850430

EDIT: i had an rpi it died from esd i think

EDIT2: this is also my work machine and i sleep to the sound of the fans

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.mlEnglish
    11·
    12 hours ago

    the best home server is a computer you’re not using, the second best home server is a bajillion dollar server rack you looted from behind a meta LLM farm

  • eletes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    6·
    20 hours ago

    I went overboard but only because I was having fun with it and didn’t like the octopus of hard drives plugged into my NUC

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    3·
    20 hours ago

    w520 goes hard. Still a very capable machine with the sheer amount of cpu horsepower it has from that era.

    Not comparable to modern chips of course, but for what you can get those things for, damn it’s not bad.

  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    9·
    1 day ago

    How is it overkill? Those are just PCs in rack cases. For all you know, they could be $150 budget builds made of decade old hardware bought off eBay.

  • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
    10·
    1 day ago

    My only “server” is a modest DS218+ which runs more mainstream services that I see in those huge ass servers like in the pic, what am I missing? (I have 6 GBs of RAM):

    • Arr stack (Bazarr, Sonarr, Radarr, Overseerr, Prowlarr)
    • Plex
    • Calibre and Calibre web
    • DizqueTV
    • Dozzle
    • Flaresolverr
    • Heimdall
    • Iperf3 server
    • JDownloader2
    • Komga
    • Openspeedrest
    • Pi-hole
    • Plex-Auto-Languages (for the Synology PMS and my Nvidia Shield TV Pro)
    • PlexTraktSync
    • Portainer
    • Qbittorrent
    • Riven/Rclone/Zurg
    • Speedtest
    • Tautulli (X2)
    • Vaultwarden
    • Zerotier

    Everything is silent and running with Docker, aside from a bunch of stock Synology services (and Tailscale), I really feel like the only reason to own better hardware is for a better transcoding experience… And usually you don’t want to transcode.

    • mugdad1@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      2·
      22 hours ago

      dayem buddy thats cool i’m still a noob in selfhosting and using docker im using some containers like adguardhome and metube photoprism and memos still tweaking cuz i started 1 week ago

  • zod000@lemmy.ml
    22·
    1 day ago

    If wanting to have cool oscilloscopes and blinkenlights is wrong then I don’t want to be right.

    • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      1 day ago

      I’d say not just starter… My rack is full of tiny/mini/micros. Proxmox on all, data on the three NAS boxes, easy to replace a box if needed (for example, the optiplex 7040 that the board died on).

      Way quieter than a regular rack, lower power use, etc. If all goes well following an intended move, I should be able to safely power it off solar + batt only. Grand total wattage for all these boxes is less than my desktop (when I last checked at least, I was running about 300-350W. I did swap two that have dgpu’s now, so maybe a touch higher).

      • pezhore@infosec.pub
        3·
        1 day ago

        My homelab is three Lenovo M920q systems complete with 9th gen i7 procs, 24GB ram, and 10Gbps fibre/Ceph storage. Those mini PCs can be beasts.

        • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          1 day ago

          There are some 13th gen i9s at work that are usff (like a fat version of the tiny, they are p3 ultras) I can’t wait to get my hands on at home. dGPU, 2.5gbit + 1gbit on board, 64gb ram on these as purchased, etc, etc. Total monster in under 4l.

          I actually ended up with a cluster of those over a standard server for a client, way more power and lower price, and with HA to boot. Should have a few all to myself next year and I can’t wait to be ridiculous with them.

    • Tja@programming.dev
      8·
      2 days ago

      I recently got a M710q with an i3 7100T. It uses around 3W on idle. I threw 8GB of RAM and a 512GB ramless NVMe for a total of under 100€. Absolutely would recommend (if you don’t need too much storage). Also Dell has some machines.

      For more info, servethehome (they have a YouTube channel and a blog) has a whole series on “tiny mini micro” machines.

        • Rudee@lemmy.ml
          6·
          1 day ago

          DRAM-less NVMe drives don’t have what basically amounts to a cache of readily accessible storage that makes large reads and writes faster. So they’re cheaper, but slower, and wear out faster

        • Sinaf@lemmy.world
          6·
          1 day ago

          Some fancy SSDs have additional DRAM cache:

          The presence of a DRAM chip means that the CPU does not need to access the slower NAND chips for mapping tables while fetching data. DRAM being faster provides the location of stored data quickly for viewing or modification.

          Source

      • Tja@programming.dev
        6·
        1 day ago

        Homelab = I have a bunch of computers I experiment and learn with, often breaking stuff and starting from scratch

        Self-host = I have a bunch of computers where I run my own email service, I replaced Netflix with plex/jellyfin, I have a Minecraft server for my friend group, etc

        • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          4·
          1 day ago

          Thanks! I am still pretty inexperienced so I’m inadvertently doing both at the same time with the same few machines haha

          • Tja@programming.dev
            2·
            1 day ago

            That’s the thing, it’s pretty typical to have both and do both at the same time! You just have some machines more stable so you don’t wipe your photos when you break k8s.

          • bisby@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            The first few years of self hosting tend to have a lot of experimentation, so the overlap is natural.

            I’m hitting my grumpy old man phase of self-hosting where I want my Minecraft server and Jellyfin to to be stable so I don’t have to hear about it from my family. So ironically, my setup is starting to look more like an overkill setup because I want to self host with stability instead of tinkering around to see if I can run a different server distro, etc. My home lab years got me to find a real nice base, but now I just add things to that base and I don’t mess with the formula I have.

            IMO the distinction is that if you are doing it for fun (or education) and could afford to lose any service you run for an extended period, you’re home labbing. If you are doing it for cost savings, privacy, anti-capitalist, or control reasons and the services are critical and need to stay up, you’re self-hosting.

            tl;dr - experimentation vs utility

      • pezhore@infosec.pub
        4·
        1 day ago

        I don’t know if I can completely explain the difference, but I would classify myself as a home labber not a self-hoster.

        I use Proton for email and don’t have any YouTube/Twitter/etc alt front ends. The majority of my lab (below) is storage and compute for playing around with stuff like Kubernetes and Ansible to help me with my day job skills. Very little is exposed to the Internet (mostly just a VPN endpoint for remote lab work).

        I view self-hosting as more of a, “let me put this stuff on the internet instead of of using a corporation’s gear” effort. I know folks who host their own Mastodon instance, have their own alt front ends for various social media, their own self-hoster search engines.

        • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          Thanks this makes sense!

          I think I’m somewhere in between the two. I’m still pretty inexperienced so I might say I’m self hosting through my homelab as I expect to screw something up any day now haha. So far so good though

  • Synapse@lemmy.world
    18·
    2 days ago

    Is having a bunch of oscilloscopes in your electronics lab self-hosting now ?

    Using old laptops or other repurposed computer for self-hosting is just great! Who does have an old computer collecting dusk in their home ? Anyone had the potential for self-hosting :)

  • Redex@lemmy.world
    7·
    1 day ago

    Here’s mine. Might need to repaste it tho, the fans are literally always running pretty noticably loudly and CPU temps are at ~49° even though it’s idiling all the time at max 1%-2% CPU usage.

    On a side note - is it normal for Redis to always be using 1-2% CPU even when there’s no traffic?

    • mugdad1@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      1·
      22 hours ago

      i literly were you but. my laptop died what are you running now?

      • Redex@lemmy.world
        2·
        14 hours ago

        Do you mean specs wise or software wise? It’s a Lenovo Y50 with 8 gigs RAM, an i5 4210H, and a GTX 960M.

        I’m running Ubuntu server with docker and a few containers (mainly Nextcloud)

  • Prinz Kasper@feddit.org
    7·
    2 days ago

    I bought a cheap mini PC with an Intel N100 processor as my entry into self hosting, so far it absolutely crushes every task I’ve thrown at it

      • Prinz Kasper@feddit.org
        1·
        10 hours ago

        So far I haven’t needed mass storage. The Mini Pc itself has a 1TB nvme drive, which I could expand upon since there’s space for another 2.5 inch drive inside the case, plus USB ports for external drives. Obviously not close to a real NAS, but again, so far I have not had any need for that.

  • panicnow@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 day ago

    I use an Asus laptop I bought during COVID as my server. I dropped in 64GB of RAM, a pair of NVM drives and an old 2.5” SATA SSD. More than enough for my use cases. The only real software tweak I made was limiting battery charging to 60%.

      • panicnow@lemmy.world
        2·
        22 hours ago

        For my Asus laptop the setting is maintained at the hardware level. I didn’t bother trying to find Linux software that could control it (I think there is one) but instead just booted into Windows and set it there and it will persist after that in Linux.