All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

  • KrisND@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Not a bad idea but there are flaws and this also doesn’t seem to address the issue of pricing or availability.

    • So you can remove the battery, will you be able to buy one.
    • They could prevent 3rd parties from making batteries that work.
    • They could just not sell battery replacements.
    • They could add more parts needed, like seals, screws that strip too easily, that annoying sticky tape etc.
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      1 year ago

      Is the glass half full or half empty? For you, I guess it’s half empty.

      Rules can be updated and tightened if needed. This is a good step, another could be taken if they don’t play nice.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t see how you decide what my beliefs or views are by a single message, interpreted by you. Pretty unfair to assume not to mention when I already stated “Not a bad idea”. But your message makes a great point, the glass is half full and they have more work to make it full.

        Of course it’s a step in the right direction. However, it could be better if they included more than just requiring the battery to be removable before hand. As is we have to wait until 2027, and then further delays for adjustments to be made etc. Why not spend the time now to add to it to ensure an available market.

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          You made 4 points about things that may or may not happen. For some of them you made the worst assumption possible (eg: batteries may not be available to buy. As if China won’t go brrrrrr making them :P ). And that’s why I said that “I guess” that for you the glass is half empty (aka you’re focusing mainly on possible issues).

          You might be right of course, but keep in mind that the main players (eg: Samsung, Apple) already sell some components to 3rd parties or are starting to do so. Even Apple, with all their control, don’t disable 3rd party batteries on their phones, they just show you a warning inside the settings menu. So, from a slightly different point of view, the glass is actually half full and you may not need additional rules. I guess we’ll have to wait and see if someone wants to piss off the EU and have more rules imposed on them.

          Anyway, it was a quick reply to the top comment on this thread (when I opened it at least). I didn’t spend much time trying interpret your comment :P

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        1 year ago

        Back in 2014 you just bought a spare and replaced it, nowadays they all want to play the same bullshit games Apple innovated on. It was was about time an authority that ruled over a market with significant purchasing power made a decision against it.

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        1 year ago

        Although I think it’s too expensive, this is why we need frame.work to make a phone too (or any company to do this). Great idea, good products, their markup just seems too high imo.

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      1 year ago

      The neat thing about EU regulations is that they are iterated over constantly, so even if they don’t get it 100% right the first time, they’re able to nail things down in subsequent iterations. Look at how quickly they struck down any fantasies Apple had of still fucking people over with their own type c implementation fuckery. The direction the EU is taking is already doing plenty good for the entire world.

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      1 year ago

      They could start selling tiers of battery quality which TBH sounds awful if they make the best battery life duration paywalled.

      • KrisND@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, that’s possible. I’m more worried about a built in battery chip preventing users from sharing batteries, like once it’s installed, it’s activated and it’s locked to that device. Meaning you’d have to buy only from that manufacture and the price will be higher.