• BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
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    7 days ago

    Europe quietly growing some fucking balls but it’s still too much of a pussy to send combat troops to defend Ukraine

    Is what the headline should say.

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      It doesn’t even need to be combat troops, for each combat troop there are about 3-4 handling everything else, like supplies, maintenance, instructors etc. We could send troops to help with those personnel demanding tasks, without being in actual combat.

      I absolutely agree that Europe needs to wake up, and take the consequence of Russia starting an unprovoked war against a European democracy.
      Give Ukraine EVERYTHING they need ASAP, and help with back-end personnel.

      Europe has a 10 times bigger economy than Russia, but Russia still manage to outspend Europe on military. Europe only needs to spend about 3-3.5% to catch up, and we are not (politically) able to do even that?

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        Europe only needs to spend about 3-3.5% to catch up, and we are not (politically) able to do even that?

        Because usually extra spending comes from the healthcare and pensions of the population who are already having problems after the inflation what doesn´t get much votes and probably pushes more people to the far right who rather invite Putin in.

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          Actual war funding generally comes from taxing the rich too. In USA during WW2 the rich had to pay 90% taxes!!!
          All of Europe has been giving the rich lower taxes for decades, raise the taxes on the rich could easily cover most, also without going to extremes. We only need about 1% extra tax to cover the increased military expenditure.

          To claim we can’t afford that without sacrificing healthcare and services is based on propaganda by the 1%.

    • gnutrino@programming.dev
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      7 days ago

      Everyone seems to be forgetting that France has already offered/threatened to send troops to Ukraine but got shut down by the US (and other NATO countries). Never underestimate the ability of a French leader to go full Napoleon if the opportunity presents itself.

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    The fact that this is the kind of shit that the UN security counsel is supposed to exist for, but is actually less useful than a prostitute without a vagina.

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      Yes; that is what their role is. Unfortunately, Russia inherited the USSR’s former permanent seat when the Soviet Union collapsed - and are basically veto’ing any such action.

      One can only hope that we learn from history, the next time a member state collapses (whether it be the US, Russian Federation or anyone else).