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    Good lord, the comments on that article. I guess I shouldn’t expect any better from RT, but man it does really make me sad that so many people are happy living in a fantasy world where Ukrainians are the bad guys in this conflict.

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      If you think that’s bad you really don’t want to look at what’s goin on in Palestine.

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            I think this is a bad faith reading of the other comment. Perhaps Warrior of Ukraine meant that they’re European, and as such is more emotionally and intellectually invested in the war in Ukraine than in the ongoing conflict of non-Europeans (which you rightly identified as “people too”, of course) in Palestine/Israel.

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              And I think I absolutely correctly read “Who cares about those people, they’re not Europeans”, and the quotes about the word conflict were just a cherry on top. The correct answer to whatabout is not “we should only care about my issue because I am important and you are less than that”.

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                I didn’t see that intention. Perhaps u/JackBruh@lemm.ee would come back and clarify his intent. Otherwise, I largely agree with you. Whataboutism makes it as if when you care about one thing, you have to care about every thing, but no one person can fix every thing. It makes cynics of us all

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          Russia has declared war against Europe and will not stop until the last European is dead.

          Wow this is news to me when did this happen

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            Plans have been discovered that Russia intended to invade other countries including Moldova and the other surrounding eastern European countries once they were done with Ukraine. Putin had no plans to stop his conquest, he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.

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          That is going to require them to train their military or something. So I’m guessing it might be easier for them to just wait a couple of thousand years until all of Europe is underwater as it will be faster.

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    Forget neutral flags, they should be banned. Heck, Russia should be banned for doping, regardless of the war.

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    Go Ukraine, but it’s official, this worldnews community has become ragebait, like the original one :/

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      It’s particularly upsetting because lemmy.ml is a major instance. IMO, moderation in this c/ is infrequent and underwhelming. I don’t mean to hang the mods out to dry; it would take a big team to wade through this effluent and tame the trolls. The hostile “Here comes the Reddit refugees” and “OMG Tankie brigade” shit is just the easy stuff. A rule on lazy whataboutism would help the signal/noise ratio as well. This post is from RT, about Ukraine/Russia/Belarus but the biggest thread in here is rehashing the Iraq occupation. Can we just discuss the original topic? Is that so hard?

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        It’s not this, it’s this whole subreddit. Might as well call it world_politics_gore_debate_bait.

        Edit: to the stink bugs trying to dunk on me for doing exactly what I wanted to do when referring to this place looking like the worldnews subreddit, look up “metaphor” in a dictionary and stfu

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    Now we’re up to $900 per US household for this Ukraine stuff. Let’s throw a few more bucks at it to buy flags. Great use of taxpayer dollars. Sure, Jan.

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      Most of which are armament that the US government already had in its arsenal. You’ve spent the money and now those missiles are actually in use instead of being hold in storage. I’m actually more interested in that 900 USD amount, where did you read or hear that exact number?

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      This conflict has the potential to cause real change in Russia. We’re talking about potentially getting rid of Putin’s regime and it’s being done without sending any of our troops to die. The help Ukraine is getting isn’t charity, look at the bigger picture.

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      This Ukraine stuff is a war where 100.000 war crimes were reported, tens of thousands of civilians were killed raped and tortured, where hundreds of thousands of people lost their house.

      I wouldn’t say it’s $900 per household because

      1. It’s from the defense federal budget, that you would’ve spent anyways
      2. The aid packages, expressed in dollars, are the sum of the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine, in vast majority which US already had
      3. The defence budget is there to be able to stand against the strongest adversaries: China and Russia. USA basically annihilated one of their enemies’ army without a single drop of blood.
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        You must be joking, 100K war crimes??? 10K rapes??? This isn’t Rwanda.

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          You haven’t heard of hyperbole, clearly. But it’s not far from the truth. Russia commits war crimes every day. It’s all their military is good for. They can’t fight a real force, so they blow up and murder civilians instead. To claim otherwise is misinformed at best, actively dishonest at worst.

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            Ok, Jen! 😂 I guess those leopards and bradleys blew up by themselves…

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                You mean the one that Ukrainian Mi-17 fell on to? Or the one hit by an AD Ukrainian missile? 🤷🏼