• Whiskey Pickle@lemmy.ml
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    lmao, no it doesn’t. the US didn’t go to Afghanistan to eradicate opium. the US didn’t give a shit about it at all, lmao.

    do tankies so blindly hate the US that they’ll give the Taliban a bj just to try to make the US look bad? wow…

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      We also didn’t threaten to kill the farmers for growing it. No shit the Taliban was successful. Comply or die. They’re the ones who were profiting from it anyway. Now that they’re in charge again, religion trumps financial needs.

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      The Afghanistan Papers: A Secret History of the War is a summary of the Washington Post’s reporting on Afghanistan, specifically on the US government’s own internal assessments from all levels of the military and political administration. In it, you’ll find this quote:

      Of all the failures in Afghanistan, the war on opium ranked among the most feckless. During two decades, the United States spent more than $9 billion on a dizzying array of programs to deter Afghanistan from supplying the world with heroin. None of the measures worked. In many cases, they made things worse.

      The US doesn’t need “tankies” or anyone else to make themselves look bad as far as the Afghan drug trade goes.

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        lmao, so? we get it. you hate the US. what’s your point? just to come here and whine about it?

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            They were directly responding to your words, to disprove them.

            except they didn’t disprove them. US Marines also peed a lot while they were there, but it’s not why they are there. it proves nothing.

            Do you really not see the connection between the comments?

            correlation ≠ causation

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                You’ve moved the goalposts, but no matter.

                “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5. (borrowed form another comment)

                Operation Enduring Freedom was sold as a war on terrorism

                see, you even admit that it wasn’t about opium.

                the US repeatedly cited opium as a target of the war because they claimed it funded the Taliban.

                you’re welcome to cite sources to back up your claims. and I’ll be happy to point out how the timeline doesn’t support your assertions that the war was about opium, it just happened to be something the US did while we were there.

                Or did you think it was retaliation for 9/11 or something?

                what I think is irrelevant. that facts are what matter.

                I have American friends who died defending those poppy fields. I remember it all very well.

                irrelevant. present facts. not anecdotes or your feelings.

                Also do feel free to explain how this is any way relevant to the conversation:

                correlation ≠ causation

                I have, repeatedly. your inability/refusal to understand is not my problem.

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                    You don’t seem to be capable of following the conversation

                    I’m perfectly capable of noticing when people move the goalposts because they can’t prove their argument with facts, as I keep pouting out. raging about it doesn’t change this fact or any other facts.

                    Oh my, you are really lost!

                    not according to the facts. if this continues to confuse you, that’s not my problem.

                    I’m sorry that I do not know how to find search results from 2001

                    not my job to prove your argument.

                    Yes, that’s why I was trying to figure out why you are struggling with them.

                    “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

                    you’ve presented nothing but anger, insults, and logical fallacies, none of which are convincing of anything other than that, when you can’t argue the facts in good faith, you resort to these bad-faith tactics ad nauseam because, so blinded by anger and hate, you can’t handle defeat.

                    Well that pretty much confirms my suspicions

                    so you admit to arguing from a position of clear and obvious bias. we get it— you hate the US. this has zero bearing on the facts— just that you like to insult people when you lose an argument.

                    Ah, so you do realize that it makes absolutely no sense lol

                    I’m not responsible for your lack of comprehension.

                    Looks like my job is done here. Rage on, little snowflake.

                    the finest projection in all the land.