Since she stopped caring for patients, there has been 1 death in 7 years. There were 6 in the year while she was on duty.
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I don’t know if it shows on this photo and I just can’t see it (Lemmios cuts photos off for some reason) but I read somewhere else that the nurse after Lucy that was there for the most attempted/murders were there for just 7 of the 25.
About the murders stopping, it occurred to me that if she were being set up, that would be the perfect time for the real murderer to stop - after someone else had been arrested. Clearly my latest criminal minds re-binge if affecting my brain though - so much evidence points to her it’s beyond unlikely that this is a set up/conspiracy.
Hey, Lemmios developer here, what do you mean by cutting off images? It’s a known bug (I’m not sure that’s the right word because it’s working as intended just looks odd when people embed images in the body of a post) that Lemmios will only show the begging of a text post in the main feed, but once a post is clicked on there shouldn’t be any cut off images? The image loads fine for me and I would love a screenshot of it getting cut off if you can?
Sure. Here’s an example from a post I made to !badrealestate if you want to check it in out yourself.
The first photo from the post is normal. The second photo I’d added to the “body” part of the post and it’s absolutely giant.
You can’t “scroll” on the massive photo either. That’s why I wasn’t sure if I was seeing the whole photo OP posted. I’m one of your beta testers if that helps, still using the beta and it’s updated automatically.
Other nurses shared 1,2,5,2,6,2,6, and 5 shifts out of the 17 murders and attempted murders during her shifts.
Geez the judge told the jurors that they would never have to serve jury duty again because the case was so traumatic. I don’t even want to imagine what everyone involved went through.
tbh, i don’t think it’s common to do more than one jury service in your life anyway. My dad is gone 60 and he has only done one recently. i’m 30 and have not done one
I’m in my 30’s and have been summoned for jury duty multiple times, but never actually served as one.
I’m 30s. Don’t know anyone who’s done it.
Both my dad and partner have done it twice, each time for less than two weeks. I think the jurors in this cause were further excused because of the sheer length of the trial, rather than because the evidence they had to consider was particularly gruesome. Obviously a premature baby serial killer is gruesome, but I think jurors are usually excused from serving again if the trial has been so horrific that they’re offered counselling or something. It’s very very rare for a trial to take more than 6 weeks.
Wow. How horrible do you have to be to murder health premature babies?
Based on the writing pictured in the article, she was seriously mentally ill.
It’s telling that throughout the entire article, neither the author nor the quoted individuals make a single mention of the personal and societal importance of mental health.
I think the BBC has a policy of not reporting a suicide, but for something like this it’s absolutely relevant.
Sorry, I didn’t understand this - did she try to commit suicide?
If I read her hand written note correctly she said something to the effect of ‘the world would be better if I wasn’t here’.
In saying that though, a mental health crisis is not an excuse to kill babies.
She is fucking scum and I hope she rots.
‘the world would be better if I wasn’t here’
Well she wasn’t wrong there.
I think that could be guessed without seeing the writing in the article as well, though obviously you’re right.
Some killers are just psychopaths/sociopaths (like Ted Bundy) but the vast majority have some serious problems which have unfortunately been missed or more likely hidden and she’s received no help for them leading to… This. It’s awful.
I work in a hospital. Management should have been all over this but it sounds very much like they didn’t want any trouble so ignored it as much as possible.
Staff should have one to ones with their managers including checking up on their welfare which is done properly could have picked up on something in the killer’s behaviour or mental health which wasn’t right.
Wards should have high standards of monitoring and if there’s an unexpected death the reason why should be fully investigated. If there was any room for doubt they should have at least escalated it to into an independent internal investigation - it’s not like there were a lot of potential suspects.
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Guilty verdict not a surprise after reading about the case earlier this year. Having a nurse on the wards supposedly looking after the most vulnerable babies in hospital and instead killing them is every parents nightmare.
Does anyone know if there was a motive? I didn’t see one in the article, but maybe I missed it.
Either way, she deserves permanent incarceration away from society. “Fucked up” is an inadequate description.
There’s a wiki article on the subject of nurses who kill their patients. It contains some general speculation on motivations.
The motivation for this type of criminal behaviour is variable, but generally falls into one or more types or patterns:[4]
Mercy killer: Believe the victims are suffering or beyond help, though this belief may be delusional.
Sadistic: Use their position as a way of exerting power and control over helpless victims.
Malignant hero: A pattern wherein the subject endangers the victim’s life in some way and then proceeds to “save” them. Some feign attempting resuscitation, all the while knowing their victim is already dead and beyond help, but hope to be seen as selflessly making an effort.None of them seem to fit here. A mercy killer would only work if she views the world as so bad that she spares the babies the suffering in growing up inside of it, but she seems to acknowledge that she’s a terrible person. This fact also makes me want to cross out the sadistic one, because I feel a sadistic sociopath wouldn’t end up feeling remorse. And from what I can tell she didn’t try to be the hero either, not even sure you can with some of the ways she chose to kill them. Could maybe some sort of compulsion or deeper mental issues, like hearing voices or something. There’s definitely something very wrong with her.
Sadists can feel disgust about their actions after the fact so I’d say that category fits in this instance.
no real motive has been established
They found this note, it gives us a tiny glimpse into Lucy’s mind, at least…
Does someone mind transcribing the chicken scratch handwriting?
What an irredeemable monster.
I have a child. I read just to the part in the article about what she did and I fucking cried. I never wanna see this picture or hear about her again.
Suffer in prison and then rot in hell, you bitch
Gallows.
Was going to ask how this woman never showed signs of this possibility before this all harpooned, and then I read this “Her mother sobbed loudly and was heard to say “this can’t be right - you can’t be serious” while the families of the babies cried and gasped.” Yup, there were definitely signs before, like there always are.
By all accounts your summary shows there were no signs. What about your comment reveals any existing signs?
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You want to unpack that for us?
I think the person is suggesting that the mother is delusional and therefore so must have been the daughter. Not sure.
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Yeah, unfortunately that wasn’t obvious, since I’ve seen literally exactly these words with intent behind them in other comments. As rustyfish pointed out, Poe’s Law is the law of the land; text doesn’t come with tone.
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Unlike you with your ability to perfectly sense sarcasm every single time.
Edit: The commenter called me an idiot. I’m disappointed that a harmless comment like that got deleted. They’re entitled to think so and also to let me know how they feel when I make the conscious decision to make a controversial statement on a public forum.
You seem to be new to the internet. Please check out Poe’s Law.
This way you won’t sound like one of the dumbasses who actually believe that shite you wrote.
Edit: Is it just me or is Memmy fucking up my links? The Wikipedia link got redirected to Edgar Allan Poe and the UD link ended up in Poe stuff too.
Edit2: Ok, you deleted your comment before I could reply. So, you are just an edgelord. What a waste of time you are.
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You accused your political opponents of supporting baby-murdering… sarcastically?
funny joke, haha.
They also all have young male prostitutes in their basement that they torture for fun.
This is what the left wants.
You are so fucked in the head that you literally use the murder of babies to push your dumbass political agenda.
If you read into the follow up comments you’d realise that I’m making fun of those you accuse me to be a part of.
Same difference, sorry.
I’m pretty certain people in Chester don’t want their babies being murdered in hospital regardless of which party they vote for.
What on earth are you on about?
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Yeah… exactly… except that I’ve never seen an embryo in neonatal care. Wonder if there’s a reason for that, Mr. “let’s make the horrific murder of born babies in the UK about fucking bipartisan US-Bullshit-Politics”
Gosh, I hate those people.Edit: If you lot in New Religioustan as a society want to let women die because AbOrTiOnS aRe BaD… that’s your perogative. Your fucked up perogative, but your perogative. But… like… leave the rest of us alone, perhaps? You know… the part of the world where one upping “the other side” isn’t the whole deal in politics and the politicians with a hint of a soul get a say sometimes… We like our human rights and our actual freedom intact, thank you very much.
It’s naive to think the UK is somehow immune to the polarization we suffer in American politics.
Oh, first of all: I’m not only talking about the UK, but in this setting that reduction is understandable
Secondly: No, of course no place in the world is immune to this shit. None. But right now, many places in the world are not struggling with this shit at the same level and hopefully never will, so no need to infect each and every talk on the internet with US-Politics and the dire and gloomy things that go on over there.
I’m actually German and it seems like you got a little bit bamboozled. Thank you for your participation.
German humour ladies and gentlemen🙌