An old article but still atleast introduced me to one really weird Keyboard layout
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I taught myself Dvorak. Didn’t buy a new keyboard or anything, just practised a little every day in some app I installed on my computer.
Took me maybe a week before I switched to Dvorak full time, and maybe a week more before my writing was as fast as it had ever been on Qwerty. It’s absolutely worth making the change.
I did this at 12 years old back in the 90s. Never lost my ability to type qwerty, either. Completely worth it.
I never managed to touch type on qwerty, so I guess I had nothing to lose in that sense.
I made the change in my late 20s, just before I started writing my PhD thesis. I figured if I was going to do a lot of writing, I might as well make it as efficient as possible.
Maltron keyboards have always intrigued me just never been able to pull the trigger on one.
Isn’t Svalboard the new(?) hottness in keyboard-land?
I’ve wanted to learn Dvorak for years but the article hit on it: I’m not and never will be native to it since I already know QWERTY, so won’t ever net the sweetest efficiency gains.
Really, you’ll get proficient in no time. The trick is to go all in with touch typing, no hint and peck!
When I was in my late 20s I spent one low-activity work week transitioning to Dvorak. I have used it for 20+ years now (although it’s a bitch to get working on subpar OS’es).
You can maintain both skills, but I chose to let my qwerty skills fade - now I only use it on mobile (because, I loathe typing on glass and so swipe whenever I can - and swiping is hilariously useless with Dvorak because it’s so well laid out).
AnySoftKeyboard on Android has dvorak.
I get around OS support by having the keyboard itself output dvorak. I use an ergodox but any QMK or ZMK keyboard can do this.
That was a gamechanger from before with multiple language setups that was always a PITA.
I use dvorak on touchscreen because you get way more chains of left and right thumb alternating.
20 yrs ago (fuck, I guess it was), I got to 40wpm on Dvorak and 60wpm on colemak. But it was such a a pain in the ass for everything else that I gave up.
Still regret it.
Hey I have extra keyboards and time now…
Nah, I used QWERTY till I was like 28 then learned Colemak-dh on an ergo split keyboard, only took a month to get to normal and now I can type with both. It’s like becoming multilingual but WAAAAAAY easier.
plus as a lefty, fuck you right handed jerks.
Seems to be missing stenotype keyboards like this one: https://stenokeyboards.com/
They have to be the fastest way to type if you can learn the chords properly, around 200wpm.
I have always wanted to move to a steno keyboard but not had the focus to put in a an hour a day for a month or so to get good at it.
I do use a lot of 30 and 40% keyboards and use chording on those but not for actual letters, just stuff like backspace or enter. Smallest I can actually do work with is the Pain 27 thanks to using home row mods and chords but that step to remembering all the letters as well just needs a lot of extra practice.
I’ve wanted to learn Colemak, but I would also need a swipe keyboard with predictions for Android.
Heliboard offers the option. The ideal layout for a small onscreen keyboard may be rather different from one for typing with all your fingers though.
True, but I think it would help to have both in the same layout.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Maybe. I use Dvorak for real keyboards and QWERTY on my phone. I tried Dvorak on my phone and didn’t see any benefit.
Hmm, maybe it doesn’t matter and is more like speaking different languages. Ten finger typing and swiping are different skills anyway.
With ten finger typing, having the most-used keys on the home row is a significant advantage for speed and ergonomics. With swiping, having a sequence of characters close to each other makes it hard for the algorithm to predict the intended word. With tapping, it’s a disadvantage to have adjacent characters in a sequence on a small touchscreen because it increases the chance of fat-fingering them.
Yeah, that makes sense.
FUTO also has this feature thankfully cuz I guess switched to Colemak two weeks ago myself
I type on Colemak on my PC and Qwerty on mobile
Same, it’s really easy to keep them separate mentally.
I think QWERTY may even be better for typing on a phone, because common letters are more spread out, leading to fewer errors.
Switching from QWERTY to Colemak on my phone was effortless, just installed it and started using it easily. Using QWERTY on my bf’s phone feels awkward now, even though I use it every day with my computer keyboard. They definitely seem to occupy different mental spaces.
FlorisBoard has Colemak and swiping with predictions.
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Wow, the Optimus keyboard, I so wished it ever became mainstream.
