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For now it’s a lot of mights and very few dids. Just make companies that are that huge to pay higher taxes to operate in the EU. It’s not a tariff is contributing their fair share to the social network of the EU. And ffs, reign in any country allowing these companies to operate in tax havens in the EU
Should be two pronged - tariffs on cloud and other services while fostering competitive local alternatives. While it’s possible knock up a cloud out of anything there is nothing in Europe as coherent as the offerings by Amazon, Google or Microsoft. And there should be.
hell, it’s about time
This in combination with deregulating the single market and allowing EU tech startup to thrive would finally give birth to real competitors on our continent
GoEU
deregulating
Nope. Nope-nopety-nope, leave this american bullshit where it belongs.
Pardon my ignorance but what does deregulating the single Market mean?
There is a big push from EU at the moment to reduce “red tape” to make it easier for business, see for example mastodon post from EC a few hours ago: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/114280068967975617
Show this to Varoufakis.
Yeah and make it 200%
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Yes. Tech billionaires are the ones who stood behind Trump proudly on inauguration day, so let’s start using Canadian/European options. Plenty of them match what those tech companies offer anyway.
Deleted meta acccount with a note referencing trump and zuck. Not much but its what I had to do
I believe this is how we can cripple the US.
I just switched my services over and there are some great alternatives, we have just been pre-programmed to use the American default brands.
Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon all easy to replace.
The only challenging one so far is YouTube, content is just lacking elsewhere, but atleast with adblockers YouTube isn’t getting my money.
Depending on what content you watch, Nebula might be a good choice.
As an American I’m here for it and encourage it. These greedy evil fuckers need to be brought down and if we have to burn it all down so be it, so we can rebuild better. What we have now is clearly not functioning for anyone but the 1%.
As an American, I’m already subscribed to !buycanadian@lemmy.ca and !buyeuropean@feddit.uk.
I’ll eat those tariffs to ensure the companies that stood at Trump’s side feel it in their stock portfolios.
That’s a great idea and I may do the same, because I have the means. I won’t blame ANYONE that can’t because they are just struggling to get by, though. There’s going to be a lot of pain and a lot of people are going to have to go into survival mode. If they have to buy the cheapest shit at Walmart to get by, I won’t judge.
Same. Hard times are coming, and I have a suspicion it’s going to be worse than 2008.
People will need to do what they can do, and I don’t blame them for surviving.
Anyone who can should backup their favorite channels with yt-dlp while you can. Don’t forget to embed the subtitles and metadata. I intend to put up torrents soon and others should as well. If you wish to support the original channel put document with links to patreon or whatever that creator uses.
Any recommendations? It seems a lot of my alternatives are turning heel and I would like more options. Preferably ones not likely to turn heel.
I agree with your point but you mentioned the services that are literally the hardest to find alternatives for. Need to use photoshop professionally, good luck getting around adobe. Sys admin only allows microsoft because he doesn’t want to manage a bazillion different setups, get used to windows buddy. I could go on with examples…
Getting rid of those predatory megacorps is worth the fight, but it’s a fight. And it’s not getting easier just by calling it easy.
Small buisnesses and more so consumers can flex on what they use. Academia can choose what they teach and require Governments can choose what they pay for
We have power
TBF, just leaving YouTube would be better. There’s plenty of information out there which don’t need some glorified video hosting platform (books, blogs, wikis and so oh). I really struggle trying to understand people’s addiction to YT…
I like long form video content from someone who is passionate about a subject
To each their own, I guess. I prefer written stuff.
I use YouTube extensively (I mean, 2-5 hours a day) and 7 days a week for years now; I use it for language learning, there is really nothing better than normal people chatting (to the camera or between themselves) about regular daily stuff that I’m also interested in, to improve comprehension, I’d love to find any source as rich as YouTube. Peertube is hopeless, I tried and failed there due to a complete lack of content (though I do check in occasionally, I’d love if some of my subscribed YouTubers would start publishing on that platform… Though I don’t know if there are any monetary incentives for them to do that?).
I’m specifically talking about the video as a medium to share information, and youtube is the worst, as it’s 99% filled with crappy influencer stuff whose only aim is to monetize people’s time.
Sure there’s that. I’m just trying to help you understand the viewpoint of some of the people that are heavy users of YouTube, and why there are currently no good alternatives, as you said “I really struggle trying to understand”.
I’m sure, like me, there are other people with their own alternative valid reasons for using YouTube for enormous amounts of time.
Just because some of the content on a platform is bad or not to our tastes, doesn’t mean it all is, and it certainly doesn’t mean that the users are wrong for using that platform in a way that suits them.
I do disagree with the publishing of content that is hateful or deliberately trying to misinform people, and I think YouTube has a lot of that, I’d obviously prefer it didn’t.
“I really struggle trying to understand the addiction”, was my original statement. The two last words are important.
That’s fair.
It’s not really the same kind of media at all, depending on what you watch. I guess what I look for in YouTube are interesting perspectives, often on things I haven’t even considered. Maybe something like blogs could partially replace it, but I’m not aware of any blogging platforms that have tons of interesting perspectives and things to talk about and actually knows what to offer me. Isn’t blogging kind of dead?
I used to read books when I was younger, but I have serious attention issues with text-only stuff. And it’s straining on eyes.
yes, there are clearly unfair trade practices here. EU has been making money for Google and Amazon, but the US are not using our services. I hear the best solution to this are tariffs: EU users have to pay to use gmail until enough US users start using EU email providers and we rebalance the services trade!
Do it, fuck up Twitter, Amazon, meta, and everyone else that shared a stage with trump.
The only language they know is $, if trump is bad for their money, they’ll go against trump.
These are people obsessed with wealth over every thing else, it’s not hard to manipulate them, but when rational adults regain power, we need to tax the ever loving shit out of them because no matter what happens, they’ll always choose “more money”.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s very easy to manipulate American oligarchs. However, they are relatively provincial and lack the capabilities to deal with truly complex challenges.
They operate in an environment with no real risk. They’ve never dealt with any real challenges. The US judicial system is a joke (even in China, Alibaba’s Jack Ma immediately regretted going on a public chimp out). US society is either openly supportive of corruption and criminality or lacks the capability (true desire and risk tolerance) to address corruption.
This is not to underestimate American oligarchs. They are extremely sophisticated and absolutely committed to their “number go up” fetish, but you also have to be real about what they are.
lol holy shit do it. DO IT. This will utterly FUCK the profit model of more things than I can quickly explain
Let’s just hope they move fast and aren’t afraid to break things.
Good on you EU! I think a majority of the world would like to see Big Tech brought down a couple hundred pegs.
All it takes is a critical mass of users to make their own Facebook. A continental divide seems like a good place.
This isn’t as much about the social media platforms, competing with those is relatively feasible. This is more about the professional infrastructure market. Microsoft Azure, AWS and Google Cloud. There isn’t really a European competitor there, the US dominates this market. We have a huge trade deficit on these services, which Trump “conveniently” didn’t include in his trade war analysis.
When America sends their users, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending trolls, shitposters, influencers. They’re bringing Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones. And some, I assume, are good users.
Edit: The original quote (about Mexicans) is from 2015. Feel old yet?
Sounds like a good idea, hit them where it hurts! I left Big Tech a while ago, but if the EU can hit them with tariffs and hurt people like Zuck and (F)Elon, awesome!
ahh… I was wondering when people were going to start talking about Tariffs in relation to streaming services and purchasing software…
You’re thinking too small. Think of taxes on Enterprise software.
Break up Ticketmaster!
