This wouid be my… Hmm… Third… I think…?.. Once in a lifetime historical market crash. The 2008 one stole my teenage years.
You know, guys, I’m starting to get this strange feeling that our economic model doesn’t really work.
Infinite growth in a finite reality. Numbers go up up up but minerals and food don’t exponentially grow, in fact they deplete.
Shareholder profit > sustained profit is what broke it.
There’s nothing wrong with say, Mark Cubans drug store model of 15% capped profits. If it were publicly owned however it’s legally liable to pump that up to infinity until the model breaks for shareholders to make quarterly gains. Short term thinking replaced long term strategy.
Even Costco knows you keep the $1.50 hot dog as a loss leader but if it were up to the ghouls in suits it would be $6.99 today and $7.99 tomorrow.
I don’t think the issue is growth related, I think it’s rather about more and more money going to the top 1%. And that issue is accelerated in USA due to badly regulated corporate capitalism. Greedy shareholders and short time thinking are signs of that, because they keep getting away with it. Looks like this isn’t going to change until there is a massive crash…
Unfortunately, it seems we’re reaping what we sow by switching from Keynesian to Neoliberal economics. It was going ok when the demand side had money to spend. We’ve had several decades of paying for that now.
The model everyone should want is unionized-cooperatives for every existing and new company
Sharing all the profits in the company for all companies
Also, for those companies to stay private and not go on stock market if they want to stay sustainable, & grow well
That’s the biggest thing that would change alot of stuff
I certainly want it. As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, I’m now a co-representative of my workplace’s union club. I wholeheartedly stand for unionised cooperatives.
Good on you!!! Hope you can inform more people about them too so they can make their own unionized-cooperarite in their own company, or a new company
That’s part of the job. Though here in Denmark we have very strong union laws to begin with. However, my particular job has a lot of foreigners in it, from places like Bangladesh (a country with very poor worker’s rights), so informing them about the strength of unity and solidarity has been very productive.
That’s awesome, good on you all for helping other countries to have the same
Don’t worry people, the upside of tariffs and a world wide trade war will become clear any day now /s
Will this happen before or after the strategy that’s behind the tariffs finally becomes clear?
We’ll finally get back at all those free-riding penguins. They don’t even have jobs!
Concerning.
strategy
That’s a wild assumption
We are witnessing history in the making, people! Keep documenting and writing it down, like the ancient greek historians. The US has radically changed under the new president Trump 2024 -> 2025 and we will need to study the effects on our world and global economy closely. Historic times indeed.
I’m getting really fucking tired of living in interesting times. I’ve lived through 9/11, the 2008 crash, a first Trump term through COVID-19, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and now a second Trump term through another financial crisis.
Give me a fucking break.
…this only affects wealthy people, so the effects won’t rage down upon the lower classes? correct? if not obvious /S
Less direct effects, people are not forced to retire off the stock market and layoffs are very regulated here.
So it’s going to be bad but not like the US.
…yeah, fuck those people…
Which people?
as the plane flies over your head, do you say what was that?
Kinda wish the North American market wasn’t the last one to open so I could have sold some shit before everything crashes…
Roll those dice baby, that’s how gambling works.
The time to sell was last Wednesday.
Oh there’s still a long way to go before the bottom I’m sure…
Im noticing a pattern in the us where after hours the big money pulls out and then during the trading day the chumps buy the dip.
Isn’t it the best time to buy?
After it bottoms out, yeah.
But there’s a saying: don’t try to catch a Falling knife.
And this knife is still falling.
Love that!
it this is a dip yes, if its something that keeps going over the course of a few years like 2008 or the great depression then no but whoever trades outside of market times has been rather negative for the last week.
I see, thank you!
Well, if everything crashes, then everything is equal!!
Then the guy with the biggest bicep eats first.
But what will he eat?
In the worst case scenario, you.
Aight, of the 15% total crash, I’m 3,5% in it. Gonna put in the rest of my spare money next week and see the result.
That crash wiped out a year of gains, and I’m interested in the future. This is due to a few people in power, not because of tsunamis etc. So this can switch over in just a day.
Just cannot know when that day will be 👴🏻
This is due to a few people in power, not because of tsunamis etc. So this can switch over in just a day.
In my view, the damage is very real and businesses will keep suffering even if Trump winds down his tariff ambitions, because the uncertainty and unpredictability hinder investment decisions. For example, if you managed an aluminium business like Alcoa, would you put up the cash to set up new smelters in the US despite melting stock prices, high borrowing costs and the possibility that the tariffs shielding those US smelters from foreign producers are reduced or even scrapped altogether without warning? Many businesses are “damned if they do, damned if they don’t”.
I’m sure there are smart plays in this market, but I’m also convinced that we’ve entered a bear phase.
Nobody knows bruv.
Lump sum investing wins from DCA 2 out of 3 times, and well bruv… the market crashed 15%. I’mma keep it for my child in my wife’s uterus. I don’t need the money.
Do what fits your goals
