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He hates bloodshed…
This is like when they were hyping the Crabfeeder as a formidable character.
“When you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die.”
I am very sceptical of this. Lukashenko brokered a deal? He’s a Putin puppet, why would Prigozhin cut a deal with him? What would that deal look like? Does Prigozhin become head of the MoD or Putins designated successor? He’s right there outside Moscow, he has the leverage, why would he blink?
Putin called him a traitor, an enemy of the state, why would Putin back down from that point, he already looks weak, why look weaker via a U-turn? Prigozhin must know he’s a dead man if he backs down, he knows the play book, why would he trust in the deal?
Was the whole thing a psy-op to give Putin an out? Was the voice recording that is the ultimate source of all this a Russian State propaganda play? Is it a play by Wagner to buy time to consolidate his forces before he moves on Moscow? But then, he has to be the one to move fast and hard…
Whatever is going on, we don’t know. Next 5-24hrs will be key.
Yeah, and we’re going to need a Top Hour option on Lemmy. This Top Day cycle clearly exceeds world event pace by at least an order of magnitude.
Agreed. The situation there is absolutely unbelievable for me. Too much nonesense happening.
There is more to this than what meets the eye…
The leader of the only effective Russian fighting force in UA is retiring to the place Russia just sent their tactical nukes after trying a coup…
I’m convinced Prigozhin believed he was a dead man already and decided to go out with a bang. The chances of success were just too slim, it just feels like a final gambit.
I disagree, the more that comes out, the more I’m convinced its a jostling for power kinda vibe. If he’s walked away without securing loyalists at FSB, MoI, AND MoD he’s a dead man and he has to know that. You can’t get into a powerful position in Russia and not know that. If so, then with FSB, MoI and MoD loyal to him he runs Russia in all but name.
The only way this makes any sense is if there’s an active coup against Putin, Lukashenko is in on it, and convinced him to pause while the Kremlin takes out Putin, to avoid him having to fight other Russians.
So he halted the march before reaching Moscow. Took a deal where he goes to Belarus and no one gets prosecuted. And then everything carries on as normal? What was the point of this then?
Maybe he’s in a lose lose situation. Chose the balcony exit.
Memes
The only thing I can think of is he actually thought he was going to be killed and now thinks he won’t? Ideologically he said a lot about wasted resources and lives and generals with no experience or planning, yadda yadda but until we see a true shake up of military leadership, nothing will change. It doesn’t matter if it’s shoigu or Putin himself, there is no experienced leadership for a war like this so nothing will change
What if that was an AI imitating Prigozhin’s voice?
Oh boy, that dude will definitely have a base jumping without parachute accident in the very near future.
Prigozhin was being politically displaced by the Ministry of Defense. His only hope was to displace the Ministry of Defense right back. Putin and the rest of the military didn’t bite, and Prigozhin’s position was strategically untenable. Maybe he could have taken Moscow, but everyone important had already left, and he couldn’t hold Moscow once he had it. So he accepted exile over a fight to his certain death, because he’s a mercenary and mercenaries don’t die for a cause.
I get the feeling Putin probably rounded up Prig’s family as well. I thought his daughter was in St Petersburg.
Bummer. Was hoping they’d wipe eachother out and end this damn war.
