• Nasan@sopuli.xyz
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    Kinda scary that the kids from this video are old enough to make good on their pledges, but also that they will probably have to.

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    First thing first, the Pakistani PM does not have any authority and overwhelming of Pakistanis detest him. Pakistan is being rule exclusively by the military after the imprisonment of the leader who undisputedly won the elections, Mr Khan.

    Now this conflict puzzles me. I don´t think Trump could care much about the region so probably not behind it. Israel certainly likes the current military rule in Pakistan so probably will use its resources in Washington to stop it… Israel for sure would not allow Imran Khan to take the Pakistani leadership again.

    Now, I am sure US arms industry wants conflict in South Asia to compensate the winding down in Ukraine and the US establishment is excited to drive India more dependent in the US’ weaponry for safety and away from China (that has a stake too in Kashmir.)

    One possible theory is that Israel thinks it can provide intel to India about Pakistani nuclear weapons and then for its operatives to get rid of Mr Khan before gets the legitimate power back… but I find it too risky…who knows. I don´t think even the Pakistani nuclear weapons are in working condition with the current Pakistani government that US fully vetted before it took power.

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      have you considered for a moment, i know it’s crazy, that two authoritarian states historically gnashing at the bit to go to war might be doing this of their own volition?

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      “I wonder why aliens never show themselves to us?! Come in peace!”

      …yeah.

      Putting aside the insanely vast distances needed to reach us, we can’t even stop killing each other. Why the hell would another intelligent life form want to come here? All we do is kill each other, rob each other, exploit each other. Wonderful societies we have going for us.

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        I don’t know, if I’m the alien in this scenario and could plainly see they don’t have the ability to traverse interstellar distances I wouldn’t be concerned from a personal safety stand point about making first contact with the intelligent life on a distant planet even if they did show they still had problems with conflict. I’m obviously projecting my own assumptions based on living on Earth but, on Earth inter and intra species conflicts naturally occurr across the kingdoms of life (maybe even all of them?) so it’s doesn’t seem that unusual.

        Maybe if life, and intelligent life particularly, is common and perhaps intelligent civilizations commonly eventually figure out how to avoid conflict, I wouldn’t be presumptuous and judgemental because this particular one hadn’t got that far yet. It would seem that’s something they likely all have to go through and that’s just operating on the arbitrary assumption that civilizations somehow do tend to figure out a way to overcome conflict, it could just as well be that they typically don’t given how hard it seems to be, so the would be aliens here likely have or have had conflicts of their own.

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      Asking as a Brit, is this our fault too? I don’t want to be “it’s all about me” but have a hunch it is!

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    This is pretty scary. If something huge kicked off, who would USA support? I feel like Trump is just waiting for his opportunity (ie major war/attack) to declare martial law and extend his presidency past 4 years. I really hope I’m wrong.

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      No proof it was a false flag. This is nonsense, and worse, it is despicable, insensitive nonsense. Lashkar e Toiba is a Pakistani terrorist group. Ajmal Kasab (one of the terrorists in the 2008 Mumbai attacks) had a relative who fought in the Afghanistan as a Mujahideen, and he was trained in similar camps in Pakistan. Bin Laden was found near a Pakistani military academy. David Headley claimed the Pakistani intelligence agency was involved in the Mumbai attacks. The attack in Pahalgam was evidently done by Pakistan, as it doesn’t fit the pattern of indigenous Kashmiri militants. Even in the height of militancy, tourists were not targeted as it alienated the business class and local Kashmiris reliant on tourism. This was an implicit agreement. What’s more, Kashmiris came out in huge numbers condemning terrorism for the first time on the streets. You show your ignorance again.

      India claims to have hit terrorist bases. Pakistani media has already started spreading fake news. It’s best to wait it out as propaganda and emotionally charged lies meant to provoke both sides will start pouring in. So stop spreading lies.

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        So, an organization not affiliated to the government broke the law and that gives India the right to break treaties and start military aggressions against that government?

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          Just like USA attacked stronghold of Osama Bin Laden which was in a country far far away (can’t remember which country), India is just sorting out known terrorist training camps in its neighbourhood.

          I suppose it was equally illegal for USA to kill Osama in (can’t remember which country).

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              It is justified. Another matter that the justification doesn’t respect sovereignity of Pakistan - just like Pakistan army doesn’t respect its democracy.

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          Did you read what I wrote? Pakistan has covertly supported terrorism. Pakistan did not share intelligence with India during the Mumbai attack. Independent intelligence from other countries confirmed Pakistan’s role in the attacks.

          India did not target any Pakistani military sites. It claims to have targeted LeT and Jaish e Mohammed bases. Pakistan still shields many internationally recognised terrorists.

          You’re naive if you think Pakistan is ‘governed’. It is a military masquerading as a government. Again, read. Maybe look up the Mumbai attacks and Pakistan’s role in them. Look up how Hizbul Mujahideen foiled indigenous Kashmiri militant groups like the JKLF and ratted them out to the Indian army because they weren’t loyal enough to Pakistan. It’s an inter imperialist conflict. Class war doesn’t play out on the country level. I don’t support war, or warmongering.

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        Why do you think Pakistan had something to do with it? You have provided no evidence. India has been occupying and surpressing Kashmir for decades. You really think those Kashimiris have no reason to get radicalized?