Just in case anyone is using their account here to post to off-instance communities: those posts and comments seem to have a very high failure rate. There is a lot of activity and accounts on this instance. This is to raise awareness, not to pull people away or break up the lemmyverse. Quite the opposite really: there is a technical problem on this instance that might be preventing the lemmyverse from functioning as it should.
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Lemmy.world and some others have held back on the 0.18.0 back end update because the admin did not want to forego this Captcha integration, which broke in 0.18.0. Version 0.18.1 is expected to release soon, and address the regression with Captcha.
The new version also reduces its reliance on websockete, which should address a number of other quality-of-life problems on this instance, such as the random post bug (and hopefully the 404s/JSON errors I’ve been getting all afternoon).
Hopefully just a few more days and we’ll be back to rights.
I don’t think it’s a version issue. It could be, but testing I’ve done says otherwise. There’s plenty of 0.17.4 instances that, despite other bugs, have no problem sending and receiving updates from other instances. I hope you’re right. I don’t run the instance so testing reveals mostly speculation.
An aside, the Astros are up 2-1 in the bottom of the 3rd.
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What do you think is causing the failures? How are you seeing the fact that it’s failing?
Like you mentioned afterward. Comments and posts just plain failing to land on any other instance. Also I run an instance for testing and can see incoming connections. lemmy.world fails at a protocol level, not at the application level. It’s a, IMHO, bandwidth issue. Hopefully the admin is aware and wants to fix it. I’d say he has a responsibility, but he doesn’t. lol.
So I’ve been thinking of spinning up a personal instance. I have the tech chops for most projects like this in a small scale but are there any reasons why I shouldn’t use Lemmy in that way?
Do it. Be super aware of how federation works though. The more stuff your users subscribe to the more network traffic you will need to accommodate.
Is there any use to spinning up an instance, only allowing say 10 people max, then just keep it updated and let it run, to take the load of those ten people off the bigger instances? Is that too small time to be useful? I have pretty weak upload.
Upload will depend on your user’s activity (posting/voting/commenting.) Download will depend on that PLUS what the users are subscribed to.
Just trying to get a sense if it’s worth bothering with my 10Mbit up.
It’s really quick to get running. You need a fairly reliable IP/hostname as this is how your server will talk to all other servers and users. If you use dynamic dns, make sure it’s rapidly updated if your ip changes.
I find everything to show up pretty well. Have an example?
A post I sent 4 hours ago to lemmy.ml wasn’t showing up. After I edited it once with no changes, it showed up as posted 1 minute ago. It’s definitely an issue taking place. You can check to see if your posts are showing up at their destinations with the rainbow federation link button next to posts.
Yeah, take a look at my profile from the perspective of lemmy.world:
Then compare with the comment count compared to other instances:
https://lemmy.ca/u/liara@lemmy.world
https://lemm.ee/u/liara@lemmy.world
9 of my comments haven’t federated and are visible only to lemmy.world
https://lemmy.ml/u/liara@lemmy.world
22 comments made it to .ml but that’s still missing 6 comments
This post can be an example. Check: https://sh.itjust.works/post/446063 Do you see our conversation?
What is this supposed to prove? I see the same thing there and on lemmy.world
Just to be clear: if you load these two pages: https://sh.itjust.works/post/446063 and https://lemmy.world/post/609080 that are identical?
My bad, I’m an idiot lol
No, they’re not. I was only comparing that conversation because I thought it was a direct link to that comment chain, but in fact many other comments are missing.
No you’re not. It’s good to test. There might be differences in our client’s view due to other CDNs, proxies, caching etc. I’m just convinced it’s lemmy.world’s outbound networking. There might be other instances with other problems, and yes the upgrade could be a factor, but the lemmy.world issue is clearly and forwardly apparent.
I had no idea about this issue with LW; thanks for bringing it up.
Do you know if they eventually show up at some point? Or is the request blocked the first time around and there are no other attempts?
By the way, I’ve checked on kbin.social and it looks even more different there lol
A lemmy developer more familiar would have to answer that. It seems inconsistent at best. How consistent it was designed to be might be up for debate, but the average users understanding should AT LEAST match that…
I can see a LOT of failed network connections from lemmy.world to my instance and results of comparing posts. That’s the data I have. :)
This has been discussed in an issues thread which @ruud@lemmy.world responded to, so we can assume he’s aware, though I haven’t seen an update.
Fair enough. Keep in mind, being popular doesn’t magically bestow the knowledge, resources, or willingness to handle issues.
being popular doesn’t magically bestow the knowledge, resources, or willingness to handle issues
I would like that on a T-Shirt, please.
Also keep in mind that defederating (blocked instances) will prevent posts and comments from syncing between instances as well.
You can see blocked instances on lemmy.world here: https://lemmy.world/instances
This isn’t a question
I’m on kbin.social and I can see this ;)
Hilarious. This comment doesn’t show on sh.itjust.works, which makes total sense. lemmy.world is responsible for sending it to other federated servers. Maybe kbin > lemmy right now?
Soooo sh.itdoesntwork?
sh.it.works.sometimes
OP, This highlights something else - I think the reason you are getting down votes is that most people seeing this thread are not on lemmy.world. The heading is a bit misleading (or potentially wrong) from the perspective of a federated user - which is most of us!
OMG. You’re right! I just edited the title. Which, lol, will not show up everywhere.
I honestly hope it’s a short term problem, I had no idea. It’d be a pain to have to migrate somewhere else.
It’ll get fixed. Right now this may be a swamped and baffled community, but it is also excited and highly motivated.
