Oh no, the ISRAELI academics are so antisemitic…
Israeli academics? Believe it or not, Hamas!
It takes literally 5 minutes navigation “Israel” history to find out it is a genocide based project. They literally calling to build “Jew state” on a land where other people lives. And the more you read the more fucked up it gets. So academic should be doing better ! This been going for 2 years, and the pretend the plan wasn’t genocide since British Christian Zionist came up with the idea as early as 1580…
The anticipation of Jews returning to Palestine and making it their national homeland was first heard among self-identified Christian groups in the 1580s, particularly those aligned with Puritanism, a Reformed branch of Christianity that gave rise to the Congregationalist denomination.
Like you can’t even imagine this shit…
In 1844, George Bush, a professor of Hebrew at New York University and the cousin of an ancestor of the Presidents Bush, published a book titled The Valley of Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived. In it he denounced “the thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the dust,” and called for “elevating” the Jews “to a rank of honorable repute among the nations of the earth” by allowing restoring the Jews to the land of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity.[57] This, according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, forming a “link of communication” between humanity and God. “It will blaze in notoriety …”. “It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all kindreds and tongues of the truth.”
Look it really doesn’t matter what some crazy people thought in 1580 or 1844. Trying to condemn the entire modern-day nation of Israel and its inhabitants is on par with calling all of Gaza terrorists.
I’m not saying Israel doesn’t have deeply rooted colonialism nor that we shouldn’t study its history, but making blanket judgements about entire peoples based on random historical nitpicks, is the weapon of the enemy.
Making blanket judgements about entire peoples based on random historical nitpicks,
Is not random nitpicks, it is the root of what we see today and what we will see tomorrow. If this is the root of why European pushed Jew from their land in Europe, then indoctrinate them slowly over the years to believe this is their land and they can “kill every human, animal, and trees” then no wonder we have estimated 80% of the population support the genocide of the Palestinian people.
It does because it add context to the reason why occupation and genocide is still happening
You attempting to erase the history of a racial supremacist movement is part of the problem.
ALL MODERN DAY ZIONISM is the belif in a racially pure jewish ethnostate in control of the holy land.
Until ZIONIST idology is shamed out of public society, until ZIONIST politicians are barred from power, they will keep committing the same atrocities.
after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - ben gurion first israeli prime minister before arab decided to attack
Wonder if Palestine academics are secretly against Hamas too
Everyone in Palestine is Hamas to Israelis. You can tell because they’re trying to final solution them all as we speak.
We’ve hit the point where people are only trying to save their own asses from any type of future justice. Justice that will hopefully come before they are all dead.
It is a positive shift. Don’t get me wrong. But what we are seeing right now has not done anything yet to improve the material conditions of the people of Gaza or Palestine as a whole.
These western leaders and scholars are trying to form a narrative that can be looked back at as “the point” in which they stood up against the genocide. But (1) that point was 19 months ago and (2) they aren’t actually doing anything to stop the genocide.
We cannot let history see them in a good light. These leaders and scholars have known exactly what has been happening for the last 19 months. You can’t spend 19 months denying the acts of genocide and only finally come to the conclusion once Gaza is reduced to ruins and it’s entire population is starving. That not what genocide scholars are meant to tell us. They aren’t meant to tell as after the fact. They are meant to learn from history and call out these things long before it is allowed to reach this point.
And many of them did. But if you’re a “genocide scholar” and you’re only now coming to the conclusion that this is genocide. 19 months after real scholars correctly pointed to it. You are not a scholar. You are a glorified record keeper.
Unfortunately the university academics are not government leaders.
And many of them did. But if you’re a “genocide scholar” and you’re only now coming to the conclusion that this is genocide. 19 months after real scholars correctly pointed to it. You are not a scholar. You are a glorified record keeper.
All of them have been agreeing that Israel is committing genocidal acts pretty much since month, if not week, one. Then the scholarly debate started on whether the sum of genocidal acts already constitutes genocide proper. It’s one of those cases where scholars make distinctions that activists don’t like because activists like simple narratives, punchy slogans, clear-cut lines, as opposed to getting bogged down in nuance.
I’m not saying that activists are wrong calling it a genocide, I’ve been predicting that the Kahanites are going to use the opportunity on day fucking one, but it’s also not right to expect scholars to lower their standards, simplify their analytic framework. There’s a good reason why they apply metric tons of nuance to everything.
but it’s also not right to expect scholars to lower their standards, simplify their analytic framework.
A livestreamed genocide where the perpetrators were unapologetically genocidal since day 0 and with the 100 year history of colonizing Palestine, any “genocide scholar” who was held back by their standards was a glorified record keeper, waiting until it’s widely recognized as a genocide before labeling it as such themselves.
And you’re white-washing their cowardice as scholarly integrity and standards. Bullshit.
A livestreamed genocide where the perpetrators were unapologetically genocidal since day 0
That’s evidence of a genocidal act, and of intent of the precise perpetrators. It does not, on its own, prove that Israel, as opposed to merely those people, are guilty of genocide. Israel could, for example, have brought them to justice themselves.
And you’re white-washing their cowardice as scholarly integrity and standards. Bullshit.
Upholding things like the presumption of innocence and due process does not preclude me from shouting “stop the thief”. As said: I’ve been doing that since day one. Yet, when dragging that thief before court, I’d still expect the court to actually look at the matter in detail. Those procedural hoops exist for good reason: Justice cannot be served by mob rule.
Israel didn’t even arrest thr nekba zionist terrorist. Israel just scape goat some low level soldiers to act like israel crimes are not systematic
And that has to be established, instead of just assumed… If you’re a scholar or judge. Activists can and should just assume it given that there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence.
You don’t want activist scholars or judges because then you don’t have scholars or judges any more, is all I’m saying. Leave the activism to the activists.
How can anybody seriously believe that it is not established. Anybosy who deny the genoce is in a certain level complicit
Judges. Scholars. Neither operate on the assumption of guilt, but assumption of innocence. And there’s a very fucking good reason to do that, to see what assumption of guilt does to a people simply observe how the Israeli right considers Palestinians: Guilty unless proven otherwise. You can’t fight barbarism by succumbing to it.
What is this BS. If you do genocidal acts like blocking aid for 2 months you are comiting genocide. No such a thing as genocide proper and genocide not proper.
Genocide is a serious war crime that when declared all countries has the duty to do all they can to stop it. Declaring a genocide late is like detecting a cancer in the latest stage. You don’t want a genocide to be declared a decade after just like it happened in Bosnia
No such a thing as genocide proper and genocide not proper.
That’s not what I said. There’s a difference between genocidal acts and genocide, same as there’s a difference between breaking a promise and fraud.
You don’t want a genocide to be declared a decade after just like it happened in Bosnia
Yes we want exactly that, because genocide needs to be proven thoroughly because otherwise deniers have an attack surface. But we also want to intervene much earlier. Those two things are not at odds.
Considering people have been quietly boycotting working with them for over a year now, it seems a little late.
Israeli academics have condemned the genocide in Gaza, but progressive liberals in the US like Bill Maher don’t even dare mention it.
Bill Maher used to be a right leaning “centrist” when he was running politically incorrect in the 90s. His politics never changed, he just got critical of crazy Republican shit like the Iraq war and then Trump ignoring elections.
