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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 29 days ago

Communism vs. the "free" market

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Communism vs. the "free" market

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 29 days ago
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  • pineapple@lemmy.ml
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    29 days ago

    So real!

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    China isn’t communist, but way kess stupid as the US, that is the main difference. It’s something like a state capitalism, not depending on private lobbies as in the other capitalist systems. A real comunist state don’t currently exist in the world (no, also not North Corea, it’s a fascistic dictatorship, not so far from what will be the US with Trump in the near future)

    • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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      Is China State Capitalist?

      • The backbone of the economy is state ownership and socialist planning. 24 / 25 of the top revenue companies are state-owned and planned. 70% of the top 500 companies are State-owned. 1, 2 The largest bank, construction, electricity, and energy companies in the world, are CPC controlled entities, subject to the 5 year plans laid out by the central committee.
      • Workplace democracy in action in the CPC.
      • Is modern day china communist? Is it staying true to communist values?
      • Didn’t China go Capitalist with Deng Xiaoping? Didn’t it liberalize its economy? Is China’s drastic decrease in poverty a result of the increase in free market capitalist policies?
      • Is the CPC committed to communism?
      • The Long Game and Its Contradictions. Audiobook
      • The myth of Chinese state capitalism. Did Deng really betray Chinese socialism?
      • Tsinghua University- Is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics real socialism, or is it state Capitalism?
      • Isn’t China revisionist for having a capitalist sector of the economy, and working with capitalists? Why isn’t it fully planned like the USSR was?
      • Castro on why both China and Vietnam are socialist countries.
      • Roderic Day - China has billionaires.
      • What is socialism with Chinese characteristics (SWCC)?
      • How is SWCC not revisionist? How is it any different from Gorbachev’s market reforms?, 2
      • Domenico Losurdo - is China state capitalist?, 2
    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      China is a socialist state with a communist party in charge of it. This is an indisputable fact. The whole notion of state capitalism is a misnomer. The purpose of labor under actual capitalism is to produce capital for business owners. Capital accumulation is the driving mechanic of the system, hence the name. Meanwhile, the purpose of state owned enterprise is to provide social value such as building infrastructure, producing food and energy, providing healthcare, and so on.

      Communism does not exist in the world because capitalism is still the dominant ideology. Socialist systems such as one in China are the first step towards communism.

      • pineapple@lemmy.ml
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        28 days ago

        If communism is a complete lack of a state, do you believe communism is possible?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          I’m personally skeptical that a complete lack of states can be achieved in practice. Humanity is simply too diverse, and it’s highly unlikely that everyone will agree on a single common system. Even if it was possible, lack of state would not mean lack of need for management and organization, so you would still have hierarchical structures in place to manage things.

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    29 days ago

    It’s worse than that. Amtrak gets government subsidies. Conservatives take that to be Communism, so even the “capitalist” solution, the only train we have, is constantly under threat.

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    China has state capitalism, far from Communism. Still a win for china tho.

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      China is not state capitalist, its a mixed economy with the planned socialist sector predominating. See here.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      No, China does not have state capitalism. Presumably, what you refer to as “state capitalism” is the fact that much of the economy is under state ownership. However, there is a fundamental difference between regular capitalism and what you refer to as state capitalism here. The purpose of labor under actual capitalism is to create capital for business owners. Capital accumulation is the driving mechanic of the system, hence the name. Meanwhile, the purpose of state owned enterprise is to provide social value such as building infrastructure, producing food and energy, providing healthcare, and so on.

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    29 days ago

    propaganda

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      29 days ago

      cry ab it

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        29 days ago

        there is already a political memes channel, put it there

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