No headphone jack. Real shame i won’t be able to use this phone.
I simply cannot understand that decision. Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad? That big vendors like Samsung and OnePlus follow the inane “courage” displayed by Apple because they also want to be “premium” is understandable, but that smaller vendors, especially the fair phone do it is just dumb.
Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad?
No, they think https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/usb-c-to-mini-audio-jack-adapter-3-5mm-18 is fine. (I’m not agreeing with them.)
Thanks, but pfffff. So I have to carry around another tiny thing I can lose easily. No thanks.
The idea is that you don’t detach the adapter from your headphones. My experience is that it kinda works, there are even ones that allow you to charge at the same time.
I have some sympathy for Fairphone in that regard because they pay more for the materials and workers than Apple, so it forces their hand to a degree to save costs at other places. A friend has the Fairphone 3 and says the camera is unusably bad… So yeah, they cut costs and consumers stay away because they may need them. I need two physical SIM slots, for example and Fairphone has one since the 4 or so.
Headphone jack is not about cost cutting, it’s about selling something with a higher profit margin.
And not detaching the adapter doesn’t work when you have multiple devices.
Please stop bogging down the conversation with this every single time fairphone comes up
Ugh. Looks like they may never release a device with a headphone jack at this point. I’m fine with my FP3 but it still comes off a bad move.
Can they please just bring back the project manager that oversaw the FP3? Since the departure the company has made very questionable design choices and decisions (FP4 without headphone jack, and the unrepairable first gen Fairbuds)
Has the most compelling hardware features of any Fairphone yet looks like. Also, quite like the design compared to their previous attempts.
No eSIM though?It does have eSIM.Also hope the software or rather firmware stuff is good. And would like to see some competent camera review.
Also, gotta say, funny how all the headphone jack die-hards from r/Android ended up here. As every single other comment here currently complains about it missing.
Specifically, the Qualcomm QCM6490 octa-core SoC is used in the Fairphone 5, which is actually more intended for embedded and industrial applications. The chip has eight cores and reaches up to 2.7 gigahertz, whereby the performance should be on the level of the Snapdragon 778G 5G .
(Machine translated.)
Interesting. I’ll wait for benchmarks before jumping to conclusions. Considering how Qualcomm has been raising prices, I’m not really surprised that vendors are crawling down the product line.
I’ll wait for benchmarks
Fairphone was never about the high-end. Don’t expect anything marvelous.
It doesn’t need to compete with current gen flagships, these are just overkill anyway even for me as a heavy user also using it for my work etc. What they do need is “good enough” performance (i.e. 2/3 years old flagship performance) and a decent camera, that’s I think what was lacking that actually impacts users.
This is basically Google’s approach now. I’m a little disappointed that my Pixel 7 from 2022 underperforms the 2019 flagship it replaced, but it’s a compromise I’m willing to make for timely security updates.
Sounds like the Fairphone 5 might be in a similar performance tier.
There are currently 11 modules, which are user replaceable. It has 8GB of ram. It would’ve been so much cool if it was upgradable to something like 12/16GB.
I am currently typing this on my Fairphone 4. I personally do really like it and the only thing I would really complain about is the cameras. They are fine but as soon as you get into low(ish) light settings or try to zoom just a little bit it get’s bad. When using 8x digital zoom you basically have pixel soup. And yes, I know digital zoom sucks. But at the same time my Galaxy S7 was older and did this soo much better.
I was also annoyed about the missing headphone jack but it turns out that it really isn’t a huge problem for me. I mostly need it in my car and I just have a dongle that splits into USB-C (for charging) and 3.5mm jack that I store in my car. I don’t really get why Fairphone decided against it but it really doesnt affect me as much as I feared it would.
I hope it gets a US release
Fairphone 4 with /e/OS (degoogled, privacy focused custom ROM) is available in the US. Check out https://murena.com/shop/smartphones
Yeah, but they also mention that if you choose to install stock android onto it instead of their e/OS. They will void your warranty :/
Same, been waiting a long time
Too expensive for me. I understand why, like the whole being “fair” thing and all but those specs are not good enough for 700€.
Not even a fhd screen, only 90hz, with a camera cutout while it has bezels…
People who don’t have wireless headphones yet, why are you living in 2015?
Why not let ppl chose what they want to use?
Personally I use both, wireless and wired headphones/speakers. Sometimes Bluetooth is better, sometimes the headphone-jack is more convenient.
Is this so difficult to understand?
You know how convenient it is to just have some wired headphones lying around in the car in case I need them for some reason? (Like if I forgot my wireless ones for the gym).
I can’t do that with wireless headphones, the battery will passively run dry.
