

damn, I was fine turning it down before finding out it had AI at the core.
“AI at its core” is a BS marketing phrase. Obviously there is no AI in the actual operating system core.
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damn, I was fine turning it down before finding out it had AI at the core.
“AI at its core” is a BS marketing phrase. Obviously there is no AI in the actual operating system core.
Just FYI in case you don’t know - SteamOS has changed and is now based on Arch, which means Bazzite is still fundamentally different.
Both are immutable distributions, meaning software installation via Flatpak and Distrobox is exactly the same.
System-level differences are mostly irrelevant which is a fundamentally different approach from Ubuntu, Mint, etc. where users are expected to juggle with PPAs to get newer drivers on their ancient Ubuntu LTS base.
Aurora is the desktop/workstation version of Bazzite, btw.
Aurora, it’s the desktop version of massively popular Bazzite (which targets gaming). That means you’ll find tons of up to date tutorials online (Bazzite tutorials are usually applicable unless they are about the few features Bazzite and Aurora diverge specifically).
I explicitly advise against Ubuntu and Mint for the reasons I outlined here. Ubuntu and Mint have the added downside that almost none of the guides you’ll find about SteamOS will work: Different desktop, different philosophy.
People need to realize that since the success of Steam Deck the “old classics” of newbie recommendations are out of the window and what helps these users the most is a Linux distribution as close as possible to SteamOS but SteamOS is not available for random PCs, so Bazzite/Aurora are currently the way to go. Personally I like Fedora KDE but I shifted my stance since the linked post and trying out Aurora.


How is that an SoC feature?


It’s not really enshittification when “Google reads your mail” has been the entire point since the launch of GMail. Relevant ads, grouping mails into topics, find spam, etc. has always been the selling point of GMail.


Google is developing a Linux runtime for Android, Valve are making an ARM version of Steam, so it could be usable but I don’t think it’ll light the world on fire.


Luckily early next year Valve releases a version of SteamOS that runs on a phone processor. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Steam Frame with Qualcomm SoC is just a first step for a phone several years down the road, kinda like a non-crap resurrection of the XPeria Play.


Why TF would Google start caring about what users want now, especially since this issue is way less visible to most people?
EU Digital Markets Act. Google is already on the list. The watchdog is watching Google.



A friend of mine buys every Pokemon game and described this (tounge on cheek) as a compulsive mental illness of theirs.


Somehow with XWayland enabled, the app still specifically demanded an actual X11 session
I guess it’s because Horizon can probably act as a host to control the desktop and as client to control other desktop. The latter should work with XWayland, the former not. As I wrote: RustDesk works just fine. What RustDesk doesn’t currently offer with Wayland is unattended access. The desktop that’s about to be remote controlled gets a question to confirm remote access, at least under Gnome.
My somewhat educated guess is that it’s more likely that Gnome’s permission system gets a “always allow remote access” button before a X11 application gets a Wayland port when the decade until now a Wayland port was no priority.


Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.
X11 applications still run under XWayland. The X11 session is gone, not all compatibility with X11 applications. Steam wouldn’t run if complete removal was the case.
What’s Omnissa’s stance there? Will they port their application? Will they hire a developer to maintain a X11 session?
ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.
Are these users hiring a developer to maintain the X11 session? If not, they need to adapt then and go with the times and migrate to other solutions. RustDesk supports Wayland just fine, for example.


Say “screw it”, shift blame on Nvidia and not do anything to support Nvidia users (halving the userbase)
So keeping the X11 session around for a decade after Intel and Radeon had their drivers ready is “not do anything to support Nvidia users”?
Or do something about it and implement what is necessary to keep them supported.
Who is paying for this task? Have NVidia users set up a pledge drive? Did any PC manufacturer?


It’s not up to Linux “to support Nvidia”, it’s up to Nvidia to properly support Linux.


old hardware. Specially old nVidia GPUs.
“Fuck you, Nvidia” was in June 2012. People who bought Nvidia hardware after that really have nobody to blame but themselves.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/


In reality, every time you add another store, you are essentially giving those people root on your machine.
Shuttleworth made the exact claim like 10 or so years ago about Ubuntu not being a democracy and Canonical being root on all Ubuntu machines.
Is it a line in their internal 10 commandments?
Most of Ubuntu is obsolete the day it’s released because of how Ubuntu is structured: the supported Main repository and the unsupported Universe repository (unsupported by Canonical and entirely relying on community members that backport bug fixes in accordance to Canonical’s strict version freeze rules).
So it’s a coin toss if Universe packages get updates at all and if they do in which time frame. Packages in Universe also are not release blocking, so breakages known ahead of release there are waved through, as happened only very recently with 25.10 and it’s broken Flatpak support.
So the majority of packages are unsupported and Mint insists to build a newbie targeting distribution out of this and carry ancient packages around for years. The Mint team is already having their hands full with replacing Snap software with their own deb packages, so they don’t have the capacity to deal with all Universe packages. Probably they hope that software for their user base gets updated by an unpaid Ubuntu community member and that unfixed packages are simply not used by their users.
I think it’s the moral duty of us more knowledgeable people to discourage the use of Mint. If someone wants a Mint distribution, better use LMDE. Otherwise something like a Fedora Spin is probably currently the best newbie friendly option these days.


Do Americans not have FritzBox routers for that crap to be the most popular router?
No, Fuchsia is a completely new OS, not using the Linux kernel at all.