it is not just the US… the VSE - Prague’s university of economics and business has decided to abandon graduation theses, because it is supposedly “impossible to verify” whether they were written by student or AI, and replaced them with “hands-on” graduation project)
well how would you verify wether a thesis was written by AI? Mind that accusations are a serious matter, so “i guess it sorta looks like AI” or a percent number spat out by some unreliable LLM-detection AI isnt going to cut it
well, not sure if it works the same everywhere in the world, but here, you first write the graduation thesis and then you have to publicly defend it.
if the defense committee (or is it an attack committee, since it is the student who is on defense? :D) can’t ask questions in a way to find out whether the student actually wrote the paper and understands the topic, then what fucking pseudo-scientific field is that? (and the answer indeed is - it is economics 😂)
Then the student could just ask the AI to simulate a thesis defense and learn answers to the most likely questions.
The funny thing is, they would actually learn the material this way, through a kind of osmosis. I remember writing cheat sheets in college and finding I didn’t need it by the end.
So there are potential use cases, but not if the university doesn’t acknowledge it and continues asking for work that can be simply automated.
i graduated just before the fuckery, and they were at the forefront of using software/weeding out software for jobs already. when i was HS, students already had given up on doing homework, and they were passing people with failing/D grades to graduation. eveyrone that graduated during the pandemic, or is taking classes, said my old college is pretty bad now. because most of them elected to be online classes. theres also other prevailing issues that never were solved when i was still in college. them USING CHATGPT, is probably a step up from just copy and pasting content from various sites with the same exact question or essay.
Thank fuck I graduated college decades ago…
Actual education/teaching is under assault in the US from all sides these days… Not certain today’s students have any chance. 🙄 🤦♀️ 🖕 💩
it is not just the US… the VSE - Prague’s university of economics and business has decided to abandon graduation theses, because it is supposedly “impossible to verify” whether they were written by student or AI, and replaced them with “hands-on” graduation project)
Does hand-on mean supervised?
no, it means they will try to somehow apply the knowledge they acquired to real life problem. creating a project, instead of writing a text.
well how would you verify wether a thesis was written by AI? Mind that accusations are a serious matter, so “i guess it sorta looks like AI” or a percent number spat out by some unreliable LLM-detection AI isnt going to cut it
well, not sure if it works the same everywhere in the world, but here, you first write the graduation thesis and then you have to publicly defend it.
if the defense committee (or is it an attack committee, since it is the student who is on defense? :D) can’t ask questions in a way to find out whether the student actually wrote the paper and understands the topic, then what fucking pseudo-scientific field is that? (and the answer indeed is - it is economics 😂)
Then the student could just ask the AI to simulate a thesis defense and learn answers to the most likely questions.
The funny thing is, they would actually learn the material this way, through a kind of osmosis. I remember writing cheat sheets in college and finding I didn’t need it by the end.
So there are potential use cases, but not if the university doesn’t acknowledge it and continues asking for work that can be simply automated.
while my opinion of economy as a field is not very high, i still have high enough opinion of any teacher to believe they do outperform shitty ai…
from what ive seen on some reddit posts, they USE AI to accuse the student of writing in AI.
i graduated just before the fuckery, and they were at the forefront of using software/weeding out software for jobs already. when i was HS, students already had given up on doing homework, and they were passing people with failing/D grades to graduation. eveyrone that graduated during the pandemic, or is taking classes, said my old college is pretty bad now. because most of them elected to be online classes. theres also other prevailing issues that never were solved when i was still in college. them USING CHATGPT, is probably a step up from just copy and pasting content from various sites with the same exact question or essay.
It’s fine… I’m sure we’ll have UBI anytime now. We’ll have AI working on it.
There are people who want to do their own thinking and those who don’t. The ratio hasn’t changed much over time. Only the possibilities.