• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    You’re going to spend 1 to 1.8k or such on the flights alone when coming from the US. Plus of course, as a yank, being able to afford to have a free day at all.

    I get it most yanks are broke but a couple hundred are not much in terms of holiday money. Cheap hotels are going to cost you 25 to 50 Euros per night alone. Mallorca 4-star all-inclusive incl. plane tickets about 1k per person, seven nights. That’s groceries for a year if you know what you’re doing, or a bit more than two months of German welfare (the raw disposable payout, rent, heating, and health insurance is separate). Monthly net income on minimum wage ~1.6k, you’ll probably spend most of your holidays in Balconia but if you want, yep, the Baleares are affordable. Trekking from hostel to hostel? Even more so, that’s student-level holidays. Drinking wine while doing it? Depending on country, cheaper than beer. So, no, it’s not out of touch. It’s just not ameripoor.

    Couple of days in Venice? There’s camping grounds all around, bring a camper (I know, investment, but you can also rent them) or a tent. Commute into the city, if you buy anything… well ideally just don’t it’s all a tourist trap.

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      2 days ago

      Oh I meant, that specifically wine touring alone feels weird for that type of cash, imo. A decently-thought out trip to the Balkans for a week costs a couple hundred as well (given that was with friends to split costs etc, and flying in from Germany), so maybe I’m underestimating how my much you get for such a tour, but to me it feels really odd.

      Not that I hate wine btw, like it better than beer.

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        2 days ago

        I’ve never been on an organised wine tour but my family made a habit of swinging by a vinyard on the way back up north. The wine tasting comes with the beds (also, Zwiebelkuchen) and you get excellent prices on boxes because you’re cutting out the middle man. Kids get to taste different grape juices.

        I suppose those kinds of offerings exist in all wine regions, an organised trip would then be visiting multiple of those places.

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          2 days ago

          As someone from a region where we produce a little wine but don’t have it as a main industry, yes, they’re all over and admission price generally scales with the fame of the label.

          Ones that don’t try to concentrate on international marketing can be quite reasonable.