Image finally uploaded. Sorry about that.
[Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]
This isn’t cooperation, this is rivalry. The point is for you to use Edge instead of Chrome.
Just another skirmish in the war for what matters most: which tech-giant is the default choice.
which tech-giant is the default choice
Meanwhile, on Lemmy, I suffer under the tyranny of Big Penguin
Big penguin is no joke. Just last week a penguin busted down my front door and forced me to compile my own kernel from source!
Did he tell you he used Arch?
Arch users rarely compile their own kernels, silly.
I use Arch btw.
😂
I use Gentoo, btw.
Yes, I build the kernel myself.
Did he have a beard?
Heyoo!
They don’t want you to know you can just take the source code home, they can’t arrest you.
You mean, chromium-based browser vs. chromium-based browser?
I know, it’s about data mining (don’t call it telemetry), but still. Funny. I bet they didn’t even remove all Google links from the source code.
I’m sure that’s an end goal here, but logging into a Google account through Edge, integrates it into the Windows OS. Sort of like (but not as intensely as) logging into a Microsoft account through Edge. So, while, yes, it’s end goal is through rivalry, the method is a partnership.
I’m not sure it’s a partnership. It looks and reads like the standard authorized data sharing setup. Anyone can configure that. It uses an open protocol that’s standardized, let’s users control the information shared with explicit consent and is basically what you want out of any entity that holds all your crap. The only thing it’s really lacking is a standard protocol for sharing the actual data.
Linux distributions have it.
Microsoft using Google’s public documented API is a long way from a partnership.
Edge is a Chromium browser. This is the standard Chrome sync stuff from nearly every one of those.
People will complain about everything, but never just switch to Firefox, huh? You can’t be helped then. There is just the one browser (and a couple of forks of it).
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I use Firefox. But business do not.
Often people have jobs which involve computers, which force them to use whatever software the 90 year old running the company thinks is appropriate.
That wouldn’t help anything since the problem is Microsoft forcing Edge
One could Possibly switch to Linux or other non-Microsoft OS to fix that
I wonder if it’s an early response to the talk of breaking up Google and Chrome. MS gets more people onboarded to Edge and Google still gets your browser level metrics.
I doubt that
I wouldn’t be surprised if Google doesn’t consent to any of this
Booted my desktop since my work computers windows and I game mostly on my steam deck, and holy shit is Manjaro fast as hell compared to windows in 2025. Like I’m so used to clicking and waiting and in Manjaro you click and it’s just there.
Man fuck windows.
Yeah, just started using W11 for work and it’s insane how often I need to wait for character to buffer in after I typed something.
I shouldn’t be faster than my computer in this day and age, and yet here we are.
I’m currently horrified how my (IT illiterate) employer said we need to update all our 20+ laptops to Win11 now. Consumer laptops that barely run Win10.
To be clear, I’m not the IT guy here, though I do sometimes help out.
Same boat here. W10 is EOL. A crapton of good-enough laptops are about to go into the landfills all over your world. What a disgrace.
Yeah. Or they’ll go through with it, and then realize later that they “need” to buy new ones.
Maybe I can still convince them to switch to Linux. We’re not dependent on any MS or Windows only products.
I mean this in the most sincere way possible: I hope you succeed in this endeavor.
Edit: Autocorrect went crazy lol
You do though. W10 EOL is October, and you’re not gonna move to Linux, sadly.
I don’t really understand the issue here. Why does anyone care if you can sign into Google services on Edge?
It’s not the ability that’s bothersome (that part is fine, and has been there). It’s the fact that this is part of the first boot screen you see on Edge now, with dark patterns to get you to do it.
Oh sure, that makes sense. I never use Edge except when I’m testing a windows server VM.
True or not, I’m one email away from total freedom.
Just wonder about anti spam measures.
True or not, I’m one email away from total freedom.
uh can you expand on this?
I have 1 gmail, and their anti spam has usually been very effective, I have to find some other email with an effective anti spam before jumping the boat.
ah thank you for the expanded info. I’m in a similar situation and would like alternatives…
How can we be sure this is genuine? I can see there is an opt out option. Thats very unMicrosoft like
😭
What’s the opt-out? “Continue without”? Same options as the ms account screen before it.
Try and continue without a Microsoft account when installing windows 11
Possible on pro (at least, for now). But, not on home last time I checked (which, admittedly, has been about a year). My daily non-work computer is not, and will never be, windows. But work is work.
Edge has been Chromium based for a while now. Hell, a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.
It’s wild how corporations are so openly cool with paying license fees to give everything away to Microsoft.
I would have told them to pound sand as soon as they tried to push the 365 and Azure shit if I was a business.
a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.
Can you give a few examples?
Anecdotally, I use 365 on Firefox at work and haven’t noticed browser specific issues yet.
Trying to sign into work stuff will throw MCAS unless I’m in Edge or Chrome.
Gross. So they’ve swiss cheesed themselves for Microsoft too…
To put it into perspective: if Leibniz was right and this is truely the best of all worlds, be happy that you don’t live in any of the other, more shittier timelines. Like the one where Apple sells monitor stands for $1000. Oh, wait…
The tech bro corporate class is kind of in bed with each other. Individuals at Palantir and Meta were given the rank of Lt. Colonel the other day. They all contribute to each other’s data (selling and trading it to the same data brokers). Have similar people funding them, using and buying their products. Lots of the messaging and cultural stances they take are similar. Their heads know each other, or have ways to contact each other. Some have histories of working at the same companies, knowing the same people. Occupying the same end of the class war.
This is literally the standard Google sync account stuff in every Chromium browser. Don’t want it? Pick a browser that isn’t Chrome based. That basically leaves Firefox or a handful of brand new alpha buggy browsers no one has heard of with dubious update potential.
With a Microsoft privacy statement, and only available in Edge as of last week?
It’s a screen made by Microsoft to match their aesthetic and settings pages, of course. But it’s the exact same Google account sync system that every Chromium has, unless you’re specifically using an unGoogled version.
What? How was Mozilla ever in any kind of OS integrated way in bed with Google?
Google was just the default search engine in their browser. That’s it, and it’s dead easy to change the default search engine in Firefox.Why are you making a completely false equivalence, to make Mozilla look bad? Also Firefox is open source, so Mozilla even lets you use a fork, with all the functionality of Firefox with whatever you don’t like changed.
That’s what I was saying. Everyone gave Mozilla flack for their deal with Google, and here MS is doing it way, way worse. I actually don’t mind that Google was the default search engine in ff. It made it usable out of the box for the vast majority of users, and the minority had to click two button to change it. Seemples.
OK fair enough, but that’s not what it looked like to me when I read the headline.
I don’t use anything Microsoft, and I use only very few Google things for basic functionality of my phone.
Microsoft is is bed with Google now,
[Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]lol
Edge has always been Chrome with a Microsoft badge on.
Once upon a time, it wasn’t. Then, it was.