• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    38
    ·
    5 days ago

    Holy fuck this is spot on.

    I’m so tired of hearing “they’re so racist”

    It’s such a terminating clause. Like we don’t need to actually understand at a deeper level why guy born a Mexican, still is Mexican but is voting for Trump because… They’re racist against Mexicans???

    I’m so done with the left. It’s so tiring. They even adapt their messages. I can go back 15 years and still see the exact comments of “they’re racist” while right wing dominate spaces seem to come up with new things every 6 months. Soy cuck Wojack probably conjures up a whole era all our minds right? What about “man they’re racist” what does that conjure up?

    The left should lose the right to call anyone low information voters until they sort themselves the fuck out

    • veganbtw@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      5 days ago

      They are racist though though. Non white people can still accept and prop up systemic white supremacy. Anyone who supports the US or NATO is doing this. I see it all the time among my family and friends who are not white. To leftists racism isn’t just prejudice based on race, its prejudice based on race + the power in society to enforce that as a system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_plus_power

      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        5 days ago

        Even better to my point then that the right was more effective with using it. Something about the left is super passive which is weird because they’re so loud with what they’ll do one day if ever they had the opportunity to do something about the thing they’re really mad at for that day they’ll totally do it.

        • Thebigguy@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          5 days ago

          I mean the internet is the worst place to do politics so idc if the right used some meme I made up. Want to do politics go outside, it was campaigning and canvassing that won the election for Zohran, it’s also what got Die Linke 10% of the vote in Germany. Real politics happens in the real world. Yeah the right wing is loud online, but they’re fucking cowards in real life. Most of the leftists I know are doing shit in real life not posting. FYI I told the wojack joke in real life then somebody posted it on the web, same with shocked pikachu also a joke told in real life. You’d be suprised how much doing stuff in real life achieves.

          • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            5 days ago

            Everything is online. Nobody knows you knocked on doors in the neighborhood while people were eating supper. After supper people are logging into their favorite social media and engaging with content. Content which right now is leaning heavily on the right and affecting generations. I’ll argue all day that everything you said is exactly what the left is fucked and totally losing everything for the foreseeable future.

            Zohran I hope to God succeeds but he’s going to need so much support online and the left removed themselves from every platform, they have no connection, structure or voices to organize online, they have no tools to assist. They all hate AI. They think every platforms is racist except fully leftist ones.

            TPUSA, Heritage foundation, Cato institute, Koch Bros fucking UFC and barstool sports are all going to really amplify and sabotage Zohran. They have so many ins with business and media, they’ll all self sandstone sabotage to make sure the numbers can be amplified ONLINE to as many people as possible. The left is so far behind the times, they have no ability to counter this very foreseeable future.

            • Thebigguy@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              5 days ago

              Lol ok mr very online guy. You know that those media organisations you mentioned are all funded by billionaires. People like me aren’t funded because we say stuff that is uncomfortable and I don’t give a shit about appeasing advertisers. The biggest difference you can make is in the real world, being there for your community volunteering tennant unions etc. Posting is the lowest effort and easiest thing you can do. Actual struggle happens in real life.

              • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                edit-2
                5 days ago

                Then why the fuck do you people show up to protest??

                How does it make any sense to you that people will drive miles to some street and stand around while police kick your heads in. You cannot argue protesting publicly is effective yet engagement and capture online is not. What is really fucking crazy is how a lot of the left are convinced a public protest is Mecca while online engagement (which every one is putting money into as you said) is crap.

                Almost like the people who put money into the effective methods are convincing their opponent to do the ineffective thing while they convince them the effective methods that they’re all invested in is useless.

                They’re funding what you are doing for free right now. It’s insane how thick minded so many of you are. Every comment or content you all make costs them money to counter. It’s a numbers game. It costs you nothing. Take every protester willing to show up in the streets and teach them how to create media.

                The left is cooked. So much brain rot on the left. You’re all calling people who have beat you in every arena as low information. Yet they beat you all, everywhere. How’d that no Kings protest work out?

                Online is where opinions are shaped and formed. It’s a force multiplier. I’m so done with the left. Have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like watching people click their fingers in a park all over again.

                • Thebigguy@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 days ago

                  What are you referring to? Who is you people? I’m sorry people do know if you knocked on doors, just because you’re not doing it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t get results.

            • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 days ago

              You’re right. I’m one of the ones who got offline from the big social media sites. Honestly, I feel like it’s a civic duty and have tried to convince everyone of Fediverse accounts and have failed. I also don’t know what’s going on in my friend’s lives, and I even got off Bluesky due to tracking or some other offense I can’t remember. But I can tell you for sure, once the US gov becomes destabilized enough, that data collection from all these years will be abused to the point that all the people in the “I have nothing to hide” club are seriously going to regret being on Facebook and Instagram, etc. This surveillance state is going to be awful when they succeed, and they will.

              • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                I did do for the same reasons. But I question if this speeds things up.

                If I was a big think tank charged with changing the public opinion to favor the right wing, my first thing I’d advise you to do was remove political opponents from the view of the general public.

                Then once the area has been cleared, it’ll be cheaper to flood the zone with messages and opinions and content that shapes public opinion you favor the view I want.