8-bit DRM-removal patcher program music plays
3 command prompt windows pop up in the background and quickly disappear.
“Fuck. What were those?”
Shhhhhhh…
Just let your main HDD get encrypted.
The fact that the game hasn’t been fully released yet and they are including a DLC if you buy the premium version, is just asking me to pirate it.
From what i’ve seen of the game, it’s not even worth the bandwidth to pirate it.
There is nothing inherently wrong with DLC, and I’m tired of pretending that there is. If you think the base game is over-priced, then by all means complain about that - but if both the base game and the DLC are worth the price they’re asking for it, then there is no harm done (and some advantage) in having modular buying options.
Sure, if the DLC isn’t cut content from the game. That’s the problem. If they have already developed the content, then it should be released with the rest of the game, for the price of the game. DLC, should it be developed at all, should be an expansion beyond the original scope of development funded by the excess profit from the game.
the worst fucking offender at this has to be Mass Effect, and this is coming from someone who deeply loves Mass Effect.
I don’t buy DLC on principle, I will buy a proper expansion but not a DLC, so when I started Mass Effect 3 I didn’t understand what the fuck was going on. I had to google it because the start of the game ties in with a DLC from the second game, what a crock of shit.
If they have already developed the content, then it should be released with the rest of the game, for the price of the game.
Why? Genuine question. What does it matter to you as a consumer when the content was developed?
If the point you’re actually trying to make is “if the game is developed as a whole, but then content is carved out such that the base game then feels incomplete without it”, then this is already covered: a game which feels incomplete is inherently flawed, and so doesn’t justify the price of a full game. That’s my original point - most people are actually just pissed at inaccurate or unfair pricing, and DLC can enable that (but doesn’t have to), so they misdirect their anger to all DLC instead.
When a company actually exists that utilizes your view of DLC, then it might be a valid criticism of the phrasing; but zero day one DLC released for any game has been anything but carving up a complete product into an incomplete main product and several DLCs to increase the price without increasing the price. Oblivion was the first example of this. Horse Armor was already developed.
When a company actually exists that utilizes your view of DLC, then it might be a valid criticism of the phrasing
No, that’s precisely the point I’m trying to make - “every example of X that has existed so far is Y” does not imply “by definition, X is provably and definitively always Y”.
You can claim that all DLC that has ever existed is predatory and exploitative (I suspect there are counter-examples; but, fine, whatever, not relevant to my point). You can say that, because of past performance, you are disinclined to trust future examples of DLC or give them the benefit of the doubt. That is all reasonable. But you can’t conclude “because all DLC so far has been bad, the concept of DLC as a whole is bad and can never be used well”.
As a super-simple example - here are some prime numbers: 5, 11, 37. Are all prime numbers odd? I can give you a bunch more examples if you want!
I dont think you’re thinking about this right. Stuff like DLC has never been funded from profits of a specific game, that’s not how company finances work. They may decide to create an expansion or extension of a product they weren’t planning if a product does better than expected, but a lot of time, it’s too late by then and you’ve missed the wave to capitalize on the success. Most things like this are planned pretty early on based on the projected success. The base game and the DLC might even have separate budgets.
And all that to say, the DLC shouldn’t factor into your evaluation of a game at all. If you would like the amount of content in the game if the DLC never existed, then they added enough. You aren’t owed more content because of when they developed it, that’s absurd thinking. And if it for some reason got coded into law, it wouldn’t make anyone add more content to the base game, they’d just wait until after the game is released to start developing it. Which would make for a worse experience for both the company and consumer.
I agree with the person you replied to: if a game feels incomplete, then that’s the problem. I’m not going to pay for an incomplete game, regardless if it has DLC or not. But if a game is complete and I enjoy it, I’ll pay for DLC to get more experience from it and it doesn’t matter to me when the DLC is developed.
It’s great to have someone else who gets it!
Yeah I don’t understand this mindset. It’d be like saying it shouldn’t be allowed for cars to have different versions with more features because they were developed together. DLC is supposed to be an additional feature like lane assist or something. You can get just the base version for cheaper or you can get a version with more features but you pay more. If the product sucks without the extra features than the problem is an incomplete product.
I get that we want to pay less and get more, but they can’t give away stuff for free.
Meanwhile, I’m just happy to see quality content on GamePass again.
Right? Looks like their Bethesda purchase was the best investment for new content. Starfield, Hi Fi Rush, the Quake II remaster (we don’t talk about Redfall).
You misspelled cash cow content
Oh shit this is good news, I looked at it yesterday and it’s $120 here and instantly thought fuck that I’ll wait until it’s cracked
What kind of country are you in that a game cost $120!?
Australia, they love price gouging us here. Just went and checked steam again, the premium version is $170…
How much is a decent middle class income in Australia? I’d say it’s about $45,000 per year in the US.
Average is 90k, median salary is 80k
So higher relative income in Australia.
How much is 4 liters of milk and 4 liters of petrol in Australia? 4 liters because that about equals a US gallon which is our usual measurement for those things.
In the US right now a gallon of milk is about $2.65 and a gallon of petrol is about $3.80.
I donno about cow milk maybe $5-6 is my guess, petrol is like $7-8
So it seems like the scale is just higher in Australia. As of today 1 USD = 1.55 AUD
The real cost of gas and milk is the environment
Just curious. It’s it because of tax/vat or just everything being expensive?
There’s a lot that goes into an Australian release. Shipping all those bits to the bottom of the world is outrageously expensive. All of the map geometry has to be altered to be right-side up there. The physics math has to be re-coded to deal with -1g gravity. Somebody has to be paid to go through all of the scripts to replace every instance of “jelly” with “marmite”. Asset loading code has to be changed to compensate for the Coriolis effect.
All of this adds up to expensive Au ports, the new costs often overshadowing the title’s original development costs.
Close, it’s really because you need to flip all those bits upside down so they can be read properly by the computers down there.
Good one 😂
How much is game pass on Australia?
Maybe I’m just old but $70 base is too much for any game let alone one from a studio with known issues
Eh, to me I usually just convert it to $ per hour of enjoyment. Will I get 10 hours of enjoyment? 100? 1000?
If it’s a great game and I think I’ll get 1000 hours out of it, even if it’s $70 that’s like $0.07 per hour.
Compare that to paying $30 to go see a 1.5 hour movie at the theater and you’re doing pretty darn good I think. Even if you only get 10 hours out of it thats $7 an hour for entertainment vs the $20 an hour for a movie.
I’ve paid 15 dollars to play risk of rain 2 for 500 hours. I gurantee you there is no triple A studio in the world that would get that many hours out of me nor would their game be even double that price
Smash Melee cost $86.48 on release when accounting for inflation.
I wouldn’t buy smash bros for 90 bucks either
You’re missing the point. Games are cheaper now then they were then.
So are wages
As opposed to the $60 they have been since the NES was the hot new console?
I don’t buy $60 games either mate
I always found it kinda funny how gamers rage about the poor quality of games, but bugs with Bethesda is almost an expectation
I never pre order games
I never buy games full price
And I definitely do not buy Bethesda games before playing them and seeing how broken they are and if I enjoy them.
I never ever bought a Bethesda game before cracking it and playing for at least a few hours. Bethesda just does not deserve it.
20 hours and it’s not so broken
Lol, without reading the caption I just assumed this was a shit post comparing Johnny Depp’s likeliness to Jack Sparrow, and I laughed pretty hard at that.
Reading all the comments defending a $70 game with zero day DLC is just bewildering. I mean, HOW MUCH of a fucking cuck do you have to be to not only accept it, but to DEFEND it? You people deserve all the shit you get for being peasants. The rest of us sail the high seas, YARR!
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You clearly don’t understand development if you are so worked up over day one DLC.
Development has always worked in stages.
Imaging being so tilted over a small DLC meanwhile games like BG3 get “released” after 4 years of development which the largest team seen on any one game and it was still basically unfinished mess.
I understand greed perfectly well. I mean, you could write a comedy sketch about it at this point. “No Sir, we absolutely did not create these absolutely fabulous pieces of gear during the development of the game. Nope, not even a pixel! And this gun? This terrific looking and powerful gun that makes all the guns in the game seem meek? Totally something our gun designer thought of when he was taking a piss the SECOND after we stopped development. And this quest line that perfectly fits together with most of the game and completely changes the introduction of our sequel? Well…that’s just us being VERY good writers and not at all greedy bastards who cut off important bits of the story so we can nickle and dime you for it!”
Then you would have someone coming in and smack them around with a trout, because reasons.
Oh and in case you think I’m hyperboling, the examples in the sketch are all taken from actual bullshit that’s happened already.
Eh. By the time I have hardware that can actually play Starfield, it’ll be a GoG giveaway.
It was cracked two hours BEFORE early access launched lmao
That ghost mullet in the second pic, though 😄
The real cost isn’t the game. It’s the new computer you’ll need to play it.
Runs on steamdeck…
Playable FPS at 1080 with RTX 3060Ti?
not everyone has a 3060, as of right now im on an rx 6500 xt.
980ti here
That card’s a decade old, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect modern big budget games to run well on it
And the time wasted in grinding to get numbers go up.
That’s just life in general
If you don’t want to sail the high seas you can also get it on xbox game pass for like $10 for the month once it’s out for the plebs in like a week.
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Microsoft own Bethesda so I’d rather give them 10 bucks then 120.
This is the only reason I’m playing a pirated copy. Fuck MSFT for releasing Sept 1st and then punishing any Game Pass users who didn’t want to shell out $35 additional for digital content that isn’t even released. I’ll transfer my saves once my Game Pass version unlocks.
You can transfer your save ?
Can’t transfer saves.
Imagine being so upset that you aren’t getting something you never paid for. Get a fucking grip, kid.
For sure, just some people can be a bit hesitant about downloading a cracked version so I’d rather them give as little money as possible if they still wanna play it.
The irony
If you can’t afford Starfield, how can you afford a computer capable of running it?
Where do you think all my money went
Chuckles in dark ski mask.
In my case, it came with the computer. I still haven’t even decided if I want to play it or give it to a friend.
