Still pushing full self driving even while they are dodging lawsuits by claiming it’s just highway cruise control that customers are abusing
People commonly confuse Autopilot and FSD beta. One is the advanced cruise control and comes on all models while the other is supposed to be autonomous driving and costs $15k extra.
When I found out teslas don’t have LiDAR I nearly shat myself.
Yeah, fun stuff happens when the AI tries to interpret vision of sunlight shining straight into the lens.
Don’t you know those things cost money!?
Sadly cost cutting MBAs seldom concern themselves with silly things like function or necessity.
That wasn’t an educated MBA who cut them it was a stupid CEO who felt it was an unnecessary crutch (his words).
I assure you he was advised what to cut by an MBA he hired.
Have you seen how much these cars cost? For that amount of money it should personally serve me breakfast in bed, let alone having a scanner
Should is carrying a large load there.
They did but then Musk had the genius idea to stop installing them. I still have it in my older model but they changed the software not to use them anymore. Like I said, genius…
Which car do you have that has LiDAR in it? Maybe you’re thinking of RADAR which is different.
Oh, you’re right, it’s radar, sorry.
For an autonomous vehicle without radars or LiDAR they do still drive pretty darn well. AI DRIVR makes really good videos about FSD on YouTube and love it or hate it, it’s quite impressive how well it does despite the the lack of these sensors.
For an autonomous vehicle without radars or LiDAR they do still drive pretty darn well.
That’s a bit like saying “For an old hound dog with only two legs left he is running pretty darn fast”… :-)
Yeah I’m not getting in a car driven by AI. The tech ain’t where it needs to be for that.
It needs to be regulated to hold manufacturers responsible when their software isn’t good enough. My understanding is that there already probably is enough regulation and government agencies just need to hold Tesla accountable.
Personally, I’m all for cars driven by AI iff it’s better and safer than a human driver. Human drivers make a lot of mistakes and driving is the most dangerous everyday activity many people do. But if the AI isn’t better than a human, that’s a problem. I don’t need AI drivers to be flawless, as that’s an unrealistic bar. I just need them to be undeniably better than humans. Everything I’m hearing about Tesla’s self driving is that they aren’t.
Especially Tesla. I am very into computer vision research but I would never trust a vehicle that relies on only that with 0 LIDAR or other sensing technologies in place.
Great news. You don’t have to. The other people around you moving thousands of pounds of steel will be relying completely on that, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
Unfortunately you can still be hit by cars that idiots let the AI drive.
Thats why I drive defensively and look both ways before I cross a street.
I’m convinced that the self-driving AI from competent companies is better than human drivers already. The bar isn’t perfection, the bar is the average driver, and the average driver is bad.
Having said that, I’d never get in a car with Tesla’s self-driving solution. Musk polluted the term “full self-driving” to cars that definitely weren’t.
No, the bar is accountability. If the FSD screws up either:
- It’s claimed the driver was responsible, in which case it’s absolutely not FSD
- Someone other than the driver is investigated and cleared/convicted of wrong doing.
It absolutely does not matter that it’s better than an “average” driver. If the best driver in the world screws up, they are still held accountable.
Gonna take the concept of AI hallucinations to a whole new level.
That just made me think what if that AI stumbles on video game footage by mistake like NFS or some other screen racing games. Oh boy.
Burnout Revenge’s epic crash challenges.
You mean LLM hallucinations?
Typical ML models are not hallucinating in the same manner.
“There was a ghost! This is ectoplasm!”
You wouldn’t let chatGPT drive a car would you?
DriveGPT. Written by chatGPT proompted by chatGPT. Powered ny Nvidia^tm©®.
Not a fan of Tesla or Musk, but can we differentiate the broad public understanding of the term AI from machine learned control systems? People anthropomorphize the situation into thinking there is an I, Robot style driver enough as it is.
Counterpoint, though, maybe doing so encourages skepticism of Tesla’s capabilities.
It’s not AI it’s VI.
Virtual intelligence is not artificial intelligence.
That’s right, all the mistakes it makes are now powered purely by AI. Isn’t that fantastic?
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What do you think was powering it untill this point?
The current beta is a mix of ai algorithms and human programming. It is also a dead end now as they’ve abandoned that approach.
I guess so?
As a cyclist I really do look forward to the day where good AI is consistently better than the average-to-worst drivers out there; the bar is depressingly low and the stakes are high.
I write (and test) software for a living and my experience with Tesla as a consumer device is that it’s many generations away from being something I would trust.
Also, I’ve seen what happens to product quality when management overrides its engineers in the way elon does- we get pre-alpha quality out there in the wild, being tested on a public that didn’t sign up for that shit
That title and thumbnail are pure poetry.
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