The Matrix.org network has great potential, but after years of dealing with glitches, slow performance, poor UX, and one too many failures, I’m done with it.
  • edent@lemmy.worldEnglish
    541·
    15 days ago

    I agree with all this. The thing which caused me to uninstall was suddenly being pushed lots of abusive message with disturbing contents.

    When I complained about it, Matrix told me that my public complaints were hurting the ecosystem and I should be quiet.

  • 2910000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    15 days ago

    I just want a self-hostable open-source alternative to the shitty closed-source IM systems I’m forced to use

    I’m sticking with Matrix for now, hopefully some of the issues I’ve had will get ironed out

  • Sean Tilley@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    14 days ago

    I always liked the concept of Matrix, and still actively use it, but there’s some serious jank. Synapse is generally bloated and not fun to run an instance, Dendrite is perpetually in Beta, and the clients themselves range from adequate to awful. The default Element client on Android is so broken for me that I’m forced to use Element X, because I can’t even log in with Element.

    It’s disappointing, but there’s a ton of issues that aren’t so easy to resolve. New Vector and the Element Foundation are basically two separate entities that have some kind of hard split between them, neither of which seems to have the money necessary to support comprehensive development. The protocol is said to be bloated and overtly complex, and trying to develop a client or a server implementation is something of a nightmare.

    I want to see Matrix succeed, I think a lot of people see the potential of what it could be. I’m not sure it’ll ever get there.

    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.comEnglish
      5·
      14 days ago

      I always liked the concept of Matrix, and still actively use it, but there’s some serious jank.

      I use Element as well as Beeper, which is at its core an Element client based on network bridging. I’m a big fan of Matrix, but it isn’t as approachable as other messaging services and requires some technical know-how to use effectively.

      It seems like the Linux of messaging services.

  • supermurs@kbin.earth
    18·
    15 days ago

    For me Matrix is fine, I can use IRC, Whatsapp and Discord with it. But Element is not my cup of tea, especially with Firefox as it doesn’t play any videos other users are sharing. The same videos work fine with Cinny.

  • sunth1ef@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    16·
    14 days ago

    From an outsiders perspective, element has never worked for me and never been stable enough to get anywhere close to discord. Joining servers is buggy AF and Element X is severely hobbied on mobile.

    I’ve been refusing to use discord for about 6-8 months and am often invites to join various discords by IRL friends and online communities. I wish Matrix / Element was a viable alternative but I’ve never been able to get it working for anythung other than DMs, and I’m already happy with Signal for that honestly.

    As a non developer I want to be sensitive to the amount of work involves, and the number of cooks in the kitchen, but the fact that we don’t have a FOSS- federated slack / discord killer app is leaving so much interaction on the table.

    I’ve heard of Revolt but it doesn’t seem to be there with encryption

    • kevincox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      Yeah, I finally pulled the trigger and moved to my own domain from matrix.org. Man, it is just so much faster. Which is sad, because the performance is pretty bad. (Element Web seems to do some per-room request as part of the initial loading screen which is obviously not scalable) but getting off of matrix.org is a huge performance improvement.

      That being said there is nothing really wrong with matrix.org. The problem is really public rooms. People will join and spam. It is true of any protocol (have you heard about email?) but Matrix definitely needs to (and they are slowly working on) make it more expensive for spammers.

    • cmhe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      15 days ago

      That is what the author said they switch to, but TBH XMPP also has issues with MFA and messages frequently not being decrypted (using OMEMO) and ‘unencrypted metadata’.

      I wouldn’t say that it works better than Matrix, it just has some different strengths and weaknesses.

      • yessikg@fedia.io
        3·
        15 days ago

        I haven’t had any issues with it, but it all depends of the client and server

  • sk1nnym1ke@piefed.socialEnglish
    9·
    15 days ago

    I am still mad that are no mobile clients that supports multiple accounts. So I am ending up installing for each account a different client.

    Edit: added mobile.

  • shiroininja@lemmy.worldEnglish
    102·
    14 days ago

    I don’t know why people don’t use irc, I’m in it daily and it’s busier than Matrix, and even busier than some Discord servers I’m in. And there’s mobile clients. There’s even way less bots and spam

    • rozodru@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      14 days ago

      yup I went back to IRC. got tired of discord and matrix just wasn’t for me. IRC is where it’s add. still remember all the stuff from the 90s so it was just like riding a bike. plus I can have it in my Terminal which is a plus.

    • blobchoice@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      13 days ago

      I think IRC wins by being around the longest, but also being dead simple to set up and use.

      I tried using Matrix and it just honestly frazzled my head a little. I know it’s just a few extra steps to get registered, but it honestly feels like a few extra bits of friction to what amounts to trying to join a big social circle.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    5·
    14 days ago

    I’ve used matrix for a year now and it works, but it seems slow.

    Lots of people tried to self-host it and reported it uses too much RAM for what it does. (It allegedly uses 1GB or more of ram even if it only has 1-2 users)

    Efficient software is a must. Software must not waste resources simply because “they are there”. That’s my biggest gripe with matrix.

    Disclaimer: i’ve not tried to host matrix myself, so i could be wrong here.

    • mesa@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      5·
      14 days ago

      Its running about 1GB for me and my server setup. It spikes a bit if there is a lot going on, but it can get low than that when its just idling. Its not terrible, but given irc and other clients which take MB for RAM…its a bit of a hog-ish.

      • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 days ago

        IRC is dead simple. You cant compare something like matrix to it in terms of resource usage thats not fair. 1GB of ram usage if fine for a server application that does messaging, pictures and video.

        • szymon@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          13 days ago

          So we need to bring back IRC, if someone doesn’t know how it works - well, I don’t want to talk with such person. Bring back gatekeeping

          • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            12 days ago

            IRC doesnt fit the requirements though. I cant send pictures or videos, I cant make little icons to react, I cant quote reply, I dont get push notifications when pinged. You may think these arent nessesary but to majority of users they are and I dont think IRC is going to adapt to include them.

        • mesa@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          2·
          14 days ago

          Im running the equivalent to a pi 5 so yeah it can run with a slight delay. You may have some issues with the spikes, definitely if its more than a couple of people. 4GB in total, you will probably have to figure out if its worth it.

          Also updates sometimes borks the server. Ive stopped updating until I have time to really sit down and understand what changed.

    • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      13 days ago

      Matrix 2.0 is much faster, but seems like they’ve been building it for a decade.

      The app is out, but still no Spaces support; which is what makes it a competitor to Discord.

  • 0xD@infosec.pubEnglish
    4·
    15 days ago

    https://github.com/matrix-construct/tuwunel

    Plug for tuwunnel.

    Easy to set up, and just works. I can’t share any of the OP’s annoyances - everything is fast. Admittedly, I don’t really use the web client. Just the Android app from F-Droid and the linux AUR package element-desktop.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      Does this come with fewer mental health issues than conduwuit? Because I remember the latter had an author that was a… Mtf puppydog? And had 4 years of work experience at like 19? Who claimed that the entirety of the nix, queer and some other communities were waging a conspiracy against her and her users?

  • Shape4985@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    14 days ago

    Iv tried matrix a couple times. I wanted to like it but couldnt get on with it.

    Signal and simplex are still my prefrence

      • Shape4985@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        13 days ago

        Iv used session before, its not for me Not sure how i feel about the onion routing using the loki and oxen network.

        Signal has that “whatsapp” feel friends and family find easy and simplex has no identifiers some other cool features but can be a little complicated for some users

  • bitwolf@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    14 days ago

    I’m completely afraid of logging into fedora.im now. It’s so engulfed in spam, not even normal phishing spam. Absolutely horrifying spam, like gore and killing and other deranged shit.

    I had to move back to matrix.org and abandon my account.

  • polle@feddit.orgEnglish
    3·
    14 days ago

    Subjectivr experience against another. I switched an peer group from skype to matrix when matrix went offline. It was way better than i would have expected. Perhaps the timing was better. The element client seems really good, beside some minor jank(like screen share doesn’t work) that was probably waylands fault, its a very good experience.