This feels like some alt-right anti EV car propaganda
To me it looks like a training excercise. Electric car fires are different from ICE fires
Yep. This was from a manufacturers video. Just the idea of a fire blanket was a bit funny for me as it’s just not something you’d think of.
You’d need a big blanket for a Tesla semi
Biggest of bois are the biggest of sleepers
Or, reality. Wait till things really start getting hot globally and the battery manufacturing is sold to the lowest bidder for more ceo profit. I personally have no issues with Evs, but knowing how batteries fail…Esh…it’s a very spicy pillow
I have issues with EVs. People are acting like this is the cure for climate change when they’re almost as bad for the environment as conventional cars when you include the environmental cost of manufacturing and the energy mix of the grid that powers them.
Why can’t we be sensible and invest in trains, trams, subways and bicycle infrastructure rather than engaging in techno-fetishism?
Um they are not almost as bad as ICE vehicles. Even including emissions during manufacturing it still only takes a handful of years for most EVs to be more environmentally friendly than an ICE vehicle.
It takes at least decade for the carbon from manufacturing to be offset by the lack of emissions from the ev’s daily operation.
Assuming zero carbon electricity generation used in the ev. Local electricity mix will adjust that number up.
If you really want to have a bad time: we don’t have enough lithium to replace even half the cars currently on the road, not counting all the other uses for it aside from ev batteries.
The only two ways out of this are fewer cars or fewer people. When someone suggests the latter path, be sure to ask them who and why.
Exactly. It depends on your local energy mix, but I think it’s better after like 4 years worst case scenario. Here’s a video we with more info. https://youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM?si=tNZr23eRFk41jQ7a
Cars will still have more emissions than busses or trains, especially electric, so we should invest in those.
It depends on your local energy mix, but I think it’s better after like 4 years worst case scenario. Here’s a video we with more info. https://youtu.be/6RhtiPefVzM?si=tNZr23eRFk41jQ7a
Cars will still have more emissions than busses or trains, especially electric, so we should invest in those.
This.
All but the highest end EVs will likely switch to a LiFePO4 battery chemistry, this chemistry is much more stable under destructive conditions and are less prone to combustion and thermal runaway.
And the only penalty is about a 10% energy density loss. The chemistry also charges / discharges on a very flat curve, which means it’s not sufficient to monitor voltage levels and temperature to know the current charge state, you have to also monitor power-in / out and time and make a best guess, which requires semi regular calibration.
The upside is that you can always charge to 100% and it has almost triple (I think) duty cycles compared to traditional liOn
This is already happening in Florida after the hurricane flooded some Teslas. Apparently lithium ion batteries don’t like salt water.
An aside: I support EVs and a renewable future. It’s important that we acknowledge and address these issues in this early stage of adoption. Also, call your senator and have them support the Motorcycle Parity Act so I can afford a Livewire S2.
Unlike gas cars, which never start on fire.
EVs are a lot harder to put out
Unlike gas cars, which every single fire department in the US has been dealing with for over 100 years, electric cars need different equipment to put them out. Not all fire departments have the stuff on hand for battery fires. In 20 years this will probably change.
Please try to ignore the facts and pretend like it’s not significantly harder to contain a fucking gas fire and significantly less dangerous. Disingenuous bullshit.
Did you mean to say easier?
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Haha okay. I was confused as shit for a second and reread the thing a few times trying to figure out why I was too stupid to understand what was happening.
Yeah but air doesn’t cause gasoline to just combust. You kinda need some sort of ignition to ignite the fuel. Batteries just need to be Chinese made, or some air.
Also good luck putting it out. You just have to watch it burn.
What do you think is the blanket for? Comfort?
Nah bro you just gotta watch it burn bro trust me bro fire fighters are useless against the scourge of the battery bro
Pretending the fire isn’t there…it’s more to contain the fire rather then put it out. You aren’t stopping that chemical reaction with a blanket.
Right. Sorry I would have replied earlier but my phone rang while I was fuelling up my car and the gas station exploded.
Did you walk away without watching back as it exploded or did you lounge to the ground last second?
Highly doubt that.
Fuel is very pressurized coming out of the fuel tank pump, and 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 pressurized by the time it gets to the injector rail. When it comes out it will be atomized, and to a stoichiometric mist EVERYTHING is an ignition source.
Cool, evs are still dangerous and you can’t stop that fire. At least the gas will explode and can be dealt with unlike batteries. I never once said gas is not a danger, but that EVs pose a worse threat WHEN they fail because of the extreme heat or floods etc…
Watch the news once more and more of these time bombs are on the road. It’s only going to happen more and more especially once they start sitting around in junkyards and people leave them in their driveways to rot.
Lil guys just trying to keep warm, dont hate
As someone who doesn’t understand a thing about cars, and evs in particular- wat? Do they combust spontaneously?
EVs don’t combust spontaneously. If the battery of an EV is compromised or battery pack is pierced and lithium is exposed to air. Then that violent reaction (lithium oxidizing the air) will produce the fire you see.
I think this is from a training exercise though. Suspiciously empty lot. Some branding on vehicle might indicate test site. The idea here is that by covering the vehicle with the fire resistant blanket, the fire will consume all of the oxygen and eventually put it self out.
No. In fact they are typically quite safe but there are some edge cases that pop up given the size and power of the batteries. E.g. Recently it was reported in Florida that some EVs had similar battery issues as a result of hurricanes flooding them with salt water. Thats not a normal occurrence. It makes sense that salt water and batteries aren’t totally simpatico, but more importantly for this to happen you had to leave your car by the ocean in a hurricane, not a spontaneous thing.
Conversely I had a friend driving a brand new ford fiesta and one of the front wheels just came off at 60mph on the highway…
I can see flooded EVs susceptible to electric shorting. But I haven’t read or seen any reports of combustion simply due to exposure from salt water. Maybe those vehicles were pierced by some object during hurricane?
Do you have a source?
Also modern ICE vehicles not immune to electrical shortages due to heavy water exposure. Most if not all have ECUs and other electronic equipment that is sensitive to water exposure.
It’s fairly common for ocean-front condos in Florida to have parking garages that are below sea level. If the surf rises enough to breach the seawall then it will flood the garage levels and not the condos where people are likely sheltering. This is most likely where those Teslas were parked, so it’s unlikely that they were subjected to the hurricane force winds.
…not immune to electrical shortages due to heavy water exposure.
Well, maybe they should keep their cars out of nuclear reactors!
