slaps the hood of my 03 Acura shitbox type S
Yep, she’s a keeper.
Yeah I plan to drive my Corolla shitbox into the ground. The only problem with my plan is that the earth will only be around for a few hundred million years. Maybe a few billion? And (as long as you do the maintenance on time) Corollas will last until the heat death of the universe.
Its sad. I LOVE the concept of smart devices, the fact that you can do things so much more conveniently with little interaction. They can absolutely be done without being privacy nightmares, but apparently companies are not interested in that.
And apparently neither are consumers
I don’t care about my data. I have nothing to hide. Haha they can have my data if they want.
Literally everyone i know
You’re missing the larger point. You dont have to have anything to hide for it to be an issue. They can now blackmail you for things they know about you, track you, use targeted advertising, listen in on your conversations. Hell, if there was a need to make you look guilty of a crime, with all the data on you, it wouldn’t be that difficult to do.
Doesn’t even get into the issues of fighting back against oppressive government, which isnmuch more difficult to do if they’re constantly spying on you.
But, you’re right, nothing to hide, so it’s not a big deal I guess.
I think the post you replied to was sarcasm.
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Also, as long as people perceive it as a net benefit they’ll put up with all kinds of privacy invasions. Being part of a society is always a tradeoff of certain liberties for certain securities.
Just you wait until insurance companies start charging you extra because you go to McDonalds once a month, or because you drive 5 miles over the speed limit sometimes. Or your ex wants revenge and pays someone on the dark web to get dirt on you so you lose custody of your kid. So much stuff can go wrong, and we shouldn’t take it lightly.
If you think you have nothing to hide, you’re not using your imagination enough.
This place (the fediverse) is a circle-jerk of FOSS and paranoid privacy nuts: This comment has been a sane reference point.
I feel like one of the issues is that there’s just no good regulations on data. I don’t mind the ideals behind some of the things that are happening (better ads for Internet tracking, better designs from data derived from the telemetry in cars), but much of this doesn’t have the same kind of regulation compared to say, medical data, which makes trusting these companies with the data very hard.
Finally a coherent comment on privacy!!!
In the case of cars there isn’t really an alternative. The study the article cites looked at a bunch of different manufacturers and found the all sucked for privacy.
Vote with ya moolahhh
I post this a second time because this post is more active. What can we do to stop the transfer of data? Can we disconnect the antenna/modem that connects the cars to the Internet?
I know my vehicle has a fuse to pull to disconnect the modem.
Dont buy the car.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll just walk 26 miles to work each day I guess…
Get something made before 2017.
You can take public transportation. Oh wait, that requires governments to actually supply cities with useful and we’ll organized public transportation and since you’re probably in the US (the only country left that still uses the useless “miles” metric) and the US government has been bought up by (amongst others)car companies, there isn’t any meaningful pyblxi transportation left.
I can assure you that miles are quite useful for determining distance, I do it nearly every day. Other than that you’re spot on.
So are banana’s but we don’t use those either
How ironic. I guess you haven’t been on Reddit in the past decade.
13 years Redditor, on average 2 posts and 20 comments per day. I was a power user there until the purge
That would’ve been possible when consumers had a choice but now it’s too late.
This has been one of the major reasons I have no desire to buy a new car. I do not want a $30k IoT device that spies on me. Unfortunately, that is pretty much the norm now.
If/when I am forced to buy another, I’ll be looking hard into which ones are the easiest to rip the modem out of. Can’t be an IoT spying device without the internet.
I’m looking into restomods myself. No need to buy a new car and rip it up.
I wonder what your insurance company would say about that.
People modify their cars all the time and my insurance company has no business tracking everything I do either.
Fuck that insurance company. When mine shipped a couple of OBD-II connection boxes for us to install for our auto insurance, I sent them back. They told me I wouldn’t get their special discount if I didn’t install the trackers in our 2 vehicles. I said I’m not installing your tracker boxes regardless. I continue to have car insurance, and those alleged discounts didn’t really amount to much.
This is why GM is looking to remove android auto and Apple CarPlay. No mediator between them and your data
Sure there is its called a screwdriver and it goes directly through the computer!
Can’t really go into depth, but I worked for a major automaker, privacy is a joke for newer cars even if you don’t pay for the Internet plans.
Is there anything a mildly competent electronics enthusiast could do to disable any outbound data?
Unfortunately not for the company I worked for, all I will say is it was one of the top 5 automakers in the world.
I assume the others were also doing similar things in their cars.
I unplugged the cellular modem in mine. But it was made last decade, so they probably make those harder to find now.
As far as I’m aware, newer cars have them embedded in the head unit.
Ok so, replacing the head unit might work?
Hard to say if it’s the same for most of the major auto makers, but from what I had been told by the head unit team, mostly everything for connected services was run through the head unit.
Are dumb cars still manufactured? I don’t drive so I have no clue what the market’s like.
Holy god. I’m not letting go of my '09 carolla and ebike. What the fuck.
One of the reasons I got a motorcycle instead.
When Tesla came about ,I said privacy in cars is going to be a problem in the the future if people keep buying them and nobody protests. Well, we are now in that future. Crotch rockets may be our salvation.
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Be me
Siemens Charger
People using my wifi to get work done
Cool story, bro
Oh, look, somebody thought the tracks were a cool place to park
No parking zone will be enforced with extreme prejudice.
